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Discussion in 'Small Claims & Municipal Court' started by casey82, Mar 24, 2004.

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  1. macangels

    macangels New Member

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    eBay Lloyds TSB Fraud / Jody Halliday BD10 9JD

    Hi

    I do not know whether the bank will refund the money or not but experience with another victim suggests that you should contact the bank's fraud department and *NOT* waste time on their general customer service department.

    To find their fraud department try finding the telephone number for the company's headquarters and asking at the general reception number. Be persistent.

    They may ask if it was credit card or online, if so try online fraud. Essentially, you want to do enough to shut down this account asap so it is not used for others. You might try 0845 3000 116 as a starting point.

    Most of the East European's are using stolen IDs but given that you have direct bank accounts details, it could well be a genuine account of a seller and under the Data Protection Act 1998 you should be able to gain the name and address to take legal action.

    Usually the Data Protection Act is used *NOT* to supply contact details *BUT* in fact it exempts from non-disclosure where details are necessary for the purposes of legal action. Make it clear that you want to take legal action. You are not obliged to use a solicitor to do so.

    Quote to them;

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    Data Protection Act 1998 Chapter 29 PART IV, EXEMPTIONS

    Section 35. - (1) Personal data are exempt from the non-disclosure provisions where the disclosure is required by or under any enactment, by any rule of law or by the order of a court.
    _
    (2) Personal data are exempt from the non-disclosure provisions where the disclosure is necessary-

    (a) for the purpose of, or in connection with, any legal proceedings (including prospective legal proceedings), or

    (b) for the purpose of obtaining legal advice,

    or is otherwise necessary for the purposes of establishing, exercising or defending legal rights.

    _______

    Do not give up.

    Generally, it is necessary to write to the bank's legal division requesting details. I would copy this to your bank manager and the bank manager of the receiving bank. Basically, ring as many bells as possible to get the account stopped as quickly as possible.

    Once you get the details, you will be able to start your own moneyclaim or small claim via a county court or you will find the bank refunds the money as they want to downplay the amount and ease of fraud.

    This is not a fullsafe guaranty of getting your money back - because the scammers may not have any money - *BUT* if the account and address is genuine then at least you will make sure that there is a legal mark against the fraudster that will make it hard for them to get credit or financial services in the future.

    It is very easy to do either a moneyclaim online or a small claim at the county court. Well worth learning how to do.

    https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp

    I'd also try 192.com to see if you can find a telephone number and confirm address for this individual. Contact them and see if you can resolve the matter. They may or may not be aware of the fraud.

    Good luck, let us know how you get on.

    MA

     
  2. macangels

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    eBay Western Union Romanian Fraud

    It is worth remembering that some of these might be stolen ID of innocent individuals but these are some reported fraudsters;


    First name: Vasile
    Last name: Tabacioiu
    Adress: Str. Calina # 49
    City: Prundeni
    Zip/code: 247527
    Country: Romania

    First name: ion
    Last name: Cruceru
    Adress: Aleea Trandafirilor # 9
    City: Dragasani
    Zipp/code: 245700
    Country: Romania

    FIRST NAME : TIBERIU CRISTIAN
    LAST NAME: BADEA
    ADDRESS: TRANDAFIRILOR NR. 5
    CITY: SLATINA
    STATE: OLT
    ZIPP: 0500
    COUNTRY : ROMANIA

    First name:Mihai
    Last name:Nedelcu
    Adress:Tudor vladimirescu
    City:Dragasani
    state:Valcea
    zipp/code:245700
    Country:Romania

    FIRST NAME: BURULEANU
    LAST NAME: MIRCEA
    ADRESS: POPA SAPCA BL,M2
    CITY: DRAGASANI
    ZIPP CODE: 0900
    COUNTRY: ROMANIA

    name : Danil Jenel
    address : Cireasovului nr 17
    city : Slatina
    zip: 0500
    country : Romania

    First name: MIHAI
    Last name: POPESCU
    Address: STR. GIB MIHAESCU #41
    City: DRAGASANI
    Postal Code: O900
    Country: ROMANIA

    firstname: emil
    lastname: andrasi
    address: primaverii 137
    city: dragasani
    country: romania
    state: valcea
    zipcode: 245700

    Name: Eugen Madalin Zaharia
    Address: Sat Tighina
    City: Com. Voicesti
    State: Valcea
    Zip Code: 0915
    Country: Romania (of course)
    E-Mail: [email protected]

    First name: eugen Madalin
    Last name: Zaharia
    Address: Sat Tighina
    City: Com. Voicesti
    [email protected] Valcea
    ZipCode: 0915
    Country: Romania

    Name: Zaharia Dan Stan
    Address: Edgar Quinet nr.3 Sector 1
    City: Bucuresti
    Zipp Code: 010017
    Country: ROMANIA!

    Florian Petrescu
    Sos Pantelimon nr 98 Bloc 402A Ap 127,sector 2
    Bucharest,
    Romania.
    ebay ID greenmist55

    Name: Mocofanu Ivaniou
    Surname: Mihai
    Address: Perlei #6
    City: Ramnicu Valcea
    Country: Romania
    Zip: 1000

    Michael Dacosta

    Full name: Jean Lienard
    Address: 82 morley avenue
    Zip Code: N22 6NG
    City: London
    Country: UK

    Name: Micli Gabriel
    Adress: Nicolae iorga
    City: Slatina
    Zipp/Code: 0500
    State: Olt
    Country: Romania

    Eduard Caspani, gave the same address as the one above:
    82 Morley Avenue
    N22 6NG
    London England UK

    First Name: Francesca
    Last Name: Prinsi
    street address: Morley avenue nr.23
    zip code: N226NG
    LONDON
    U.K.
    Mobile Tel: # 0040726877998

    EDUARD CASPANI
    Address: 14 Wicket WAY
    Zip Code: IG6 3DF
    City: London
    State: England
    Country: UK

    Cornelia Rossi
    45 Eastcote Avenue
    Greenford UB6 0NG
    Middlesex.
    Could be Andreas Alexandris

    FIRST NAME : ALISA
    LAST NAME : DESPESEN
    ADDRESS: 16 HIGH STREET
    CITY : LONDON
    ZIP/CODE : W10 5PS
    STATE : ENGLAND
    COUNTRY : U.K.

    FIRST NAME : Rolland
    LAST NAME : Klerks
    ADDRESS:85 barons court church lane,
    Kingsbury
    CITY:London
    ZIP CODE:NW9 8AG
    UNITED KINGDOM

    Name:Andreas Alexandris
    Address:45 Eastcote Avenue
    Greenford UB6 0NG

    ANDREAS ALEXANDRIS.
    19 Royal Sg. St.
    Jersey, UK



     
  3. macangels

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    ebay Western Union Romanian Fraud - Helpful Addresses

    nternational Fraud agencies

    http://www.ifccfbi.gov/contactus.asp
    http://www.ic3.gov

    Telephone book in Romania : www.whitepages.ro

    Private investigator in ROMANIA
    http://www.privateinvestigator.ro/contact.html

    list of Romanian Attorneys who speak English and have expressed an interest in assisting. I can assumes no responsibility for the actions or fees of the individuals listed below;

    BUCHAREST
    Altheimer &Gray Commercial, Corporate &
    Obie L. Moore, Managing Partner International Law
    Christopher Berlew, Associate
    Str. Pitar Mos nr.5
    Tel. 212-3791 / 212-3795
    Fax 212-3796

    Arent Fox Commercial, Corporate &
    Bryan W. Jardine, Lawyer International Law
    John Gurley, Lawyer
    Bdul N. Titulescu nr.1
    Bl.A7, sc.1, et.6, apt.16
    Bucuresti
    Tel. 211-8797/98
    Fax 211-8771

    Burns Schwartz Commercial, Corporate &
    Theodore H. Cominos, Partner International Law
    Str. Grigore Alexandrescu nr.44,
    Sector 1, Bucuresti
    Tel. 310-4390
    Fax 310-4391

    Nicolae Burchel Law Offices Commercial, Corporate &
    Nicolae Burchel International Law
    Cristina Gheorghita
    Str. Caloian nr.8 (P-ta Alba Iulia)
    Bl. D19A, sc.2, apt.17
    Tel: 411-3878 411-3898

    Peter Buzescu & Assoc. Corporate, Commercial
    American Law Firm & International Law
    Splaiul Independentei 7
    Bl. 101, Apt. 57
    Sector 5, Bucuresti, 70501
    Tel. 335-1366, 336-8282
    Fax: 335-1735
    Mr. Mihai Chirea Family, Trade, Civil
    Calea Mosilor 88 and Criminal Law
    Sc. A, Et. 4, Apt. 23
    Sector 3, Bucuresti
    Tel. 313-4725
    Cel: 092-295-516

    Taylor Joyson Garrett Commercial, Corporate
    Michael Dark, Partner & International Law
    Piata Victoriei 155, bl.D1, sc.7, et.7
    Tel: 310-3438
    Fax: 211-7589
    e-mail: [email protected]

    Mrs. Carmen Eftimescu Public International Law
    Str. Frumoasa 17
    Sector 1, Bucuresti
    Tel. 650-5678
    Mrs. Mihaela Grama-Popovici Commercial, Labor, Banking &
    Str. Italiana 26 Finance and Tax Law
    Sector 1, Bucuresti
    Tel. 314-5378

    Hall, Dickler SRL Commercial, Corporate
    Gilbert P. Wood, Director & International Law
    Viorel Florin, Office Manager
    ING Barings Building
    Sos Kiseleff nr.11-13
    Tel. 222-8888; 222-9261; 092-555555
    Fax 223-4444

    Herzfeld & Rubin (Romania) Commercial, Corporate &
    Dana M. Barb, General Manager International Law
    Ioana Letca, Exq, Bucharest Bar
    Mark A. Meyer, Ezq, New York Bar
    Str. Dionisie Lupu 62
    Tel: 223-3359; 223-3358
    Fax: 223-3377

    Ms. Carola Katz Commercial & Civil Law
    Str. Dezrobirii 14, Bl. 24
    Sc. A, Et. 2, Apt. 12, Sector 6
    77582 Bucuresti
    Tel. 772-4972

    Musat & Associates Commercial, Corporate &
    Gheorghe Musat, Managing Partner International Law
    Str. M. Gh. Sontu nr.8, sector 1
    Tel: 223-3717
    Fax: 312-1590

    Kingston & Petersen
    Andy Kingston, American Attorney American Tax Law
    Patricia M. Petersen, American Attorney Corporate Law
    Str. Av. Zorileanu nr.39 Corporate Accounting
    Sector 1, Bucharest Commercial & Civil Law
    Tel. & Fax: 224-0890, 224-0891

    Stalford & Somesan Civil Law
    Ioan Somesan, Cristiana Stalfort, Christian Topfer
    Str. Popa Tatu nr.15
    Sector 1, 70771 Bucharest
    Tel: 314-3347, 314-3348, 314-4657
    Fax: 315-7836
    Cellular: 094-416-151
    E-mail: [email protected], [email protected]

    Ms. Dana Isaroiu Bucharest Bar Association
    Bdul Unirii 7, Bl.C1
    sc.1, apt.1, Sector 1
    Tel. & Fax: 336-4771, 336-9046,
    336-0276

    Mr. Victor Munteanu Foreign Trade, Commercial
    Str. Petre Poni 7 and Civil Law
    78139 Bucuresti
    Tel: 223-0508
    Cel: 094-553-240

    Mr. Ion Nestor Corporate Law,
    Str. Transilvaniei nr.44 Int'l Commercial Law
    et.3, ap.12, sect 1, Int'l Arbitration
    Ms. Stefania Ricman Civil & Commercial Law
    Str. Echinoctiului 25, sect.5 Family Law, Properties
    Bucuresti Adoptions (as representative
    Fax: 336-0394 the P.S. Buck Foundation)
    Tel: 337-2830

    Mr. Dragos-Alexandru Sitaru Trade & International Law
    Cal. Dorobantilor 134-138 Private International Law
    Bl. 11, Sc. B, Apt. 34
    71232 Bucuresti
    Tel. 230-1573

    Mr. Adrian J. Strambeanu Attorney at Law
    Str. Andrei Muresanu nr.17 Bucharest Bar Association
    Bucharest, Sector 1
    Tel/fax: 725-6844

    Mr. Victor Tanasescu Attorney at Law
    O.P. 4, Sector 3 Bucharest Bar
    Bucharest, Romania Arbitrator at the International
    Tel: 320-3656 Commercial Arbitration Court
    Fax: 323-8227 Commercial, Corporate &
    e-mail: [email protected] International Law
    Ms. Ionela Toader American Law Office
    Ms. Irina Maftei Civil & Commercial Law
    Bl.28, Sc.A, Et.1, Apt.9, Real Estate
    Str. Arh. Petre Antonescu nr.6
    Bucuresti
    Tel: 687-1168, 231-6380
    Fax: 231-6380
    Cellular: 092-291224

    Ms. Liana Vulpe Traistaru Romanian & International Law
    Str. Domnita Anastasia 13 (Civil, Penal, Trade, Admin.,
    Et. 3, Apt. 12, Sector 5 Family Law)
    Tel. 311- 0967/335-3271
    Fax 311-0967

    Ms. Petruta N. Ulmeanu Civil, Criminal, Commercial
    Bdul Dinicu Golescu 35 & International Law
    Sc. 3, Et. 2, Apt. 11, S. 1
    77114 Bucuresti
    Tel. 637-4318
    Mr. Florin Vasile Commercial Law
    Str. Muguras 4, Sector 4
    75204 Bucuresti
    Tel. 623-1207
     
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    Right, where to start.

    In March I was conned into sending £500 via moneygram by a Romanian who was extremely convincing (see below). I wanted a camera and fell for it. His details are below, even when I didn't receive the stuff he kept replying saying he was on holiday and it would be delivered soon, cheeky git.

    Dear Dan
    First of all....

    The Canon EOS 300D Digital SLR Camera Lens Kit is brand new in box,full accessories,warranty papers,2 years Canon Full Warranty.
    I bought the camera 1 week ago from Romania Electronic&Camera Shopping Store (the second largerst digital cameras store from my country Romania that exported camcorders and digital cameras to UK-France-Rest of Europe) that went bankrupt and i`ve got a great deal in buying the Canon EOS 300D and a couple of other digital cameras.

    Feat:

    Canon EOS 300D Digital SLR body
    Canon EF-S 18 - 55 mm F3.5 - F5.6 lens
    Eyecup (attached to camera)
    BP-511 Lithium-Ion battery pack
    CB-5L Battery charger
    Neck strap
    USB Cable
    Video Cable
    Manuals and Software(in english)

    6.3 Megapixel CMOS sensor
    7-point wide-area AF
    High-performance DIGIC processor
    100-1600 ISO speed range
    Compatible with all Canon EF lenses and EX Speedlites
    PictBridge, Canon Direct Print and Bubble Jet Direct compatible no PC required

    I called amazon to ask them about the error they gave it to you when you tried to purchase my camera,and they told me that i cannot accept their payment because they dont cover my country (Romania) in their payment teritory.

    In this case we shall proceed this way:

    Regarding shippment and payment here are the details : 1. SHIPPMENT : There are 3 options of delivery services that are very fast : - UPS 2 days air insured - FedEx 2 days air insured - DHL insured Any of those services are good, but I personaly prefere UPS 2 days air, if you have other preference, there is no problem. 2. PAYMENT : For payment, the fastest way to send money worldwide is Money Gram wire transfer. To arrange the transfer, you must go in person to an Money Gram Office
    please visit www.moneygram.com to find the nearest agent and hours of operation. From Money Gram, you will receive a number (Reference Number),you must send me that number as soon as you have arranged the payment so I can go to www.moneygram.com to see if the transaction is arranged.
    As soon as I have verifyed the transaction, I will ship you the package with all the accesories with the delivery service selected by you. For the reason that you will pay some money for the Money Gram wire transfer fee, I will cover shipping and insurance. 3. INSURANCE : The package will be insured at the delivery service for the amount of 500 GBP. If something happends on the road, you will receive the insurance from the
    delivery service. 4. RETURN POLICY : As soon as the package arrives, you will test the product and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 5 days sience the arrival date. In this case I will send you the full amount back and you will send me the product in the original box and you will pay the return shipping and insurance. The shipping will be with UPS 2 days air or FedEx 2 days air and I will pay shipping and insurance charges.Choose a shipping service you want
    me to use and give me your full name and address.

    At the Money Gram office you`ll need my full name and address which is:

    Name: GABRIEL GOSGIREA
    Address: Street Name : Centuri, Apartament 100, Bloc 9, Sector 6
    City: Bucharest
    Country: Romania
    Zip Code: 7000
    Phone number: 00 40 726 472 898

    Looking forword to hear from you.
    Best Regards
    Sincerely
    Gabriel

    So of course I sent the money and lost it, but he does sound convincing doesn't he?! He even sent me this afterwards!!!

    Dear Dan

    The complete package has been successfully sent at:

    Name:
    --------------------------------
    DANIEL WESTWELL
    --------------------------------
    Address:
    --------------------------------
    *********
    *********
    *********
    *********
    --------------------------------
    Country:
    --------------------------------
    ENGLAND
    --------------------------------

    Because UPS told me that i have to wait 1 week to arrange the shippment via their services and i wanted to ship the goods as soon as posible,i used for shippment Romanian Post Center,the best shipping service from my country,i used their services before with fully success.I insured the package on your name.You`ll have it in 3-5 business days.

    Mail me once again after you`ll recive the package so i can know that everything went Ok.

    Best Regards
    Sincerely
    Gabriel

    UNBELIEVABLE!. I tried contacting the Romanian Police and eventually got some feedback from someone who's email address is this: [email protected] I was wary of the hotmail address but then Police use these and PO Box numbers so they can't be traced.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I have since been conned again but indirectly. Recently on my Ebay pages, I have come home from work and there has been a lap top for sale on my pages. How this has happened I don't know, in fact I only knew because I had loads of emails asking me if I can ship to New Zealand, Canada, hong Kong etc. I had to reply to these people telling them that I wasn't selling the lap top and I didn't know how it had happened. This happened 3 or 4 times and I ended the sale straightaway each time.

    Then last week at 11pm I got a phonecall from a guy in Doncaster who said I didn't know him, but he asked if someone was putting lap tops on my Ebay site, so I said yes. Well he was about to buy it but decided to check out my website, got my phone number and asked me questions, when I told him it was a con he didn't pay. Unfortunately one person called Olaf DID pay him and he emailed me afterwards but it was too late. The guy from Doncaster sent me 9 emails that this guy had sent, the English was poor and he was desperate. When he'd seen I had ended the item he told this guy in Doncaster that he HAD to end it and for him to send payment quickly. I have tried contacting Ebay about it but it would be easier to swim the English Channel.

    His details are here:

    I send it the name and address:this is the address:
    FIRST NAME: CHIVU
    LAST NAME: STEFAN
    ADDRESS: ANTON PANN 3
    CITY/COUNTRY/ZIP: BRAILA/ROMANIA/6100.

    I have since changed my personal details on my site and put on there that I DO NOT sell lap tops.

    Sorry for the length of the message but I hope it helps someone out there.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2004
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    Romanian Fraudsters scam Amazon.com

    Hi

    very sorry.

    I note that this was a fraud arranged through Amazon.com which is new to this forum.

    I think it might be useful if folk documented where the money is being picked up to warn other folk although a blank ban on Romania right now would be sensible and on any Romanian name in London.

    MA


     
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    I am the one who fell for the Laptop trap and sent £470 to this "Chivu" in Romania.

    Dan: I read the mail from "Gabriel". Although the english is a bit better than in the mails from "Chivu", they are very similar. I am thinking it might be the same person. And also "Gabriel" stated that he lives in Bucharest. Although "Chivu" says he lives in Braila, I traced the emails he sent, and they are from Bucharest. Could you supply the ip number from the emails he sent you, if you still have them? Maybe it's the same.

    Thank you, Olof
     
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    Dear Sir,

    I am acquiring 3 sonie ericsson s700 for 510 euro from ebay from:
    First Name: VASILE
    Last Name: TABACIOIU
    Address: Calina #49
    City: Prundeni
    Zipp code: 247527
    Country: Romania

    with Western Union.


    Can I entrust me?

    Thanks
     
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    Cant Spell

    Dont pay he can speeelllllll
     
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    Romania + Western Union + Ebay = Fraud.

    re: Ebay Sony Ericsson Fraud

    If you have read this far; you know that you cannot.

    Do not use Western Union for any payments except known family and friends.

    If it looks too good, it is too good.

    Romania + Western Union + Ebay = Fraud

    MA


     
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    Thanks for the information I have risked to be deceived.

    Which are the countries of which cannot be entrusted us?
     
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    Be Aware

    New com methods are being used to make you pay, the fake selleer says ebay will email to, its aucutally sent by the fake seller to trick you.
    Dont pay
     
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    Dear macangelses you also know:
    Mark Armand
    52 Bedford Row
    WC1R 4LR , London
    United Kingdom
    This also asks the transfer street Western Union.

    What transfer I can use?
     
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    Avoid Western Union and Escrow Fraud

    How much and what for?

    For large sums, find and always use your own choice of Escrow service or check with eBay who they recommend. Do not use the escrow service suggested by sellers as it is often fraudulent, e.g.;

    see http://www.escrowfraud.com

    example;

    www.trade-services.com
    Paul Vukelic
    Admin Address........ 356 voorhees ave.
    Admin Address........
    Admin Address........ Buffalo
    Admin Address........ 14216
    Admin Address........ NY
    Admin Address........ UNITED STATES

    Bedford Row is a small, expensive street in London populated mainly by lawyer's offices and only businesses. Ask for company name.

    MA

     
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    I have asked the name of the shop.
    If I make to him a banking transfer is it less risky? The sum and of 950USD, they are of the Sony Ericsson S700.
     
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    Western Union Wire Scam

    hey i was wondering if you know this guy and if he has scammed anyone of you lot in the past or you recognise his Ebay ID or E mail address, he is as follows

    Mark Deeming <[email protected]>






    you also might want to check out this link, its VERY useful if anyone wants to do a wire transfer and WHY U SHOUDLNT DO IT.
    check it out http://www.auctionguild.com/generic65.html
     
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    Raja is really him!!!!

    is it serious or does want to take him my money?
     
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    Hi, a person I am in contact with right now is listed as a frauder on page 6 of this post:

    First name: MIHAI
    Last name: POPESCU
    Address: STR. GIB MIHAESCU #41
    City: DRAGASANI
    Postal Code: O900
    Country: ROMANIA

    This is the most recent email that he sent me when I told him that I don't trust him and that I believed that he was a frauder:

    <Start of email>

    Hello,

    Sir I don`t understand you...I think that you jocking with me....I`m a honest man and I want to prouve you that!
    You must go at Western Union and make the payment to my name and address, after that you must send me the original scanned paper from Western Union but you can cover the ``QUESTION AND ANSWER`` for your protection.In this time the money must be sent to my name and and address and the founds must be available.
    All the time your money will be safe! Immediatly after you will confirm me the payment your package will be shipped and ONLY after you receive and inspect the goods you must give me the ``QUESTION AND ANSWER`` so I can pick up the money!
    Now I`m a honest man?
    I hope that you are a honest man and we can make a deal because I have told you I don`t want to lose my time and my money...

    Thanks and I`m waiting to start the deal!!

    <End of email>


    This guy seems very convincing but with photo ID this guy can recieve the money without the "QUESTION AND ANSWER" right? I really want the phone that he's selling but I can't fully trust him. Do you guys have any advice or suggestions?

    I think I should just end the deal right away.
     
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    Yes end the deal, i have have seen that address before its a scam.
     

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