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Ebay Fraud

Discussion in 'Small Claims & Municipal Court' started by casey82, Mar 24, 2004.

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  1. alex

    alex New Member

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    Damn!
    You can only make a claim on moneyclaim if you're 18 or older!
    Am i right in thinking all of us are in our teens (im 17), due to the Junior Member status?
    Erm, hows this going to work then...
     
  2. macangels

    macangels New Member

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    Re: Yup, I got done by Daniel Levinson too..

    Have you reported it to the Western Union Fraud Department, [ they call it their Compliance Department ] we have to have this account shut down.

    Did the Police actually take a full crime report?

    MA

     
  3. alex

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    Yea they did take a full crime report.
    I phoned them yesterday to see what was going on, and they said an officer was on it. He confirmed communications with Great Yarmouth police, and said that he would be in touch soon (when he has got enough info together)
     
  4. alex

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    p.s.

    This daniel levinson isnt exactly dumb, so he has obviously been keeping tabs on what goes on in this forum.

    If anyone has anything to say that may help him avoid us please refrain from posting it, and please take the effort to mail it personally to the involved people.

    macangels you seem to be very helpful on this matter if you have anything "private" please mail it to me through this site
     
  5. macangels

    macangels New Member

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    Re: Re: Re: another ebay scam..

    I'd like to see Ebay and Western Union publish just how much theft and fraud is committed via their services on their front pages just as cigarette companies have to have Government health warnings printed on their packets.

    It is interesting but I feel that something is going to grow out of these crime. It is clear that " The State " - internationally - is washing its hands of low financial value crime, of whatever nature, more and more. It is more and more valuing crime solely on the financial basis, e.g. calculating what it costs to get a prosecution against what the financial value of the crime.

    Obviously a crime has more than a negative financial value, not just to the individual victim and their close ones loss but to society as a whole. It is hurtful, it traumatises, it aroses suspicion, cynicism, distrust, anger and ultimately counter-aggression. All of these have no *immediate* financial value to fit easily into the State's accountants' spreadsheets *but* it is obvious to a child how it damages and erodes even only the finanicial exchange aspects of all society.

    The State is unwilling - not unable - to measure the financial impact of any such crimes on an individual proportionately.

    That is to say, a 250 Dollar crime on a teenager, or an 800 Dollar crime on a student could actually be a greater and more damaging crime - to the individual and to society - than a middle age person worth 100,000s of Dollars being ripped off 1,000s in an impossibly stupid Nigerian fraud.

    But The State, internationally, values that crime more highly. Why? Does money buy law, power and politics? Has goodness or righteousness have no financial value?

    I personally would *never* use, or recommend Western Union, full stop.

    Their responses to these matters disgust me. Id rather just do without their service as I did before they were capitalised.

    I personally would not use, or recommend Ebay for any transation over an amount I was willing and able to lose on the wildest gamble or goose chase - which is probably 20 - 30 Pounds at most. I would may be only consider more *if* I could collect in person from a safe public place.

    Both companies have lost by goodwill and the expanding financial value of that.

    <b>It predict is only time before we read of some awful crime, beyond the considerable fraud of today, being committed; such a rape, murder or assault for property done on the back of an Ebay transaction.</b>

    If Ebay and Western Union remain so open to criminal elements to abuse, as they are, and are lax in their efforts to protect civil society, as they both are; then it is only a matter of time before more and more criminality is exhibited.

    Such Ebay Western Union theft and fraud is mushrooming even faster than their profits are.

    There must be a green light flashing wildly to those elements right now, they sniff fat and easy picking and know they corporations are too big, too slow to turn, too lazy, too interested in profit to deal with these matters quickly. Both companies are putting their considerable profits before individuals' and societies' well-being and security. A bit like Microsoft really on whom's back - and example - they ride. How much has Microsoft cost society and where is that accounted for on their spreadsheets or shareholder pockets?

    With their well paid lawyers and PR spin doctors, they are sounding more and more like governments to me. It seems to be the same disease that all multi-national corporations catch.

    Society is made up of energetic exchanges between individuals, much of that has become financial. Previously those transaction were all within local communities. They were abuse by the local criminal classes and became policed, locally. the structure of the police and legal services developed geographically from these local communities up.

    Now, what is happening here is that large proportion of local community, local energetic and financial exchanges is being sucked up into the web.

    Just as the big stores in the mall sucked up and killed the small local stores and all the goodwill and unvalued services they offered, so now the internet is sucking even more local financial exchanges and even some of the big stores revenue up.

    Our local community, our local energetic and financial exchanges are defined by which .com we associate with not where we live.

    And yet the Police and legal services are still left piddling about based on local geographies as if we lived in the Middle Ages largely unable to even conceive, nevermind master, modern computing technology and the changes it is making to the society's topography. A trip to your local " what's Google? " or " one-finger-typing " police station or " cant-find-the-papers " local court will convince you of that.

    They dont even know " where " the crime is being commited. They do not have or know how to use the detective tools to trace criminals and they are only slowly developing the preventative methods.
    In today's day and age, it is like a employing an literate police man who can use a pencil.

    Into this void rush the criminals first, driven by cowardise, laziness and greed. It is a lot easier to mug an ebayer - because it is a mugging and no less - than it is to mug someone in the flesh or go to work each day at all hours of the day like some honest Ebayers I know.

    It is great, now the financial corporations have built a system to profit out of digital communities, that petty criminal and sneak theives can use mug someone 3,000 or 5,000 miles away not even have to work out or look mean. And the corporations forgot to pay or employ a police force or develop a law ... let alone offer any representation and democracy with those digital communities.

    Instead, they just paid rich lawyers to write terms and conditions to defend themselves from being sued by victims.

    But soon, I think public concern and direct action is going to rise and also fill that void.

    What the fraudsters forget is that they leave a forensic train each time they enter and leave the internet far better than any physical one and it is only a matter of time before they make one mistake to many. Various systems are closing in on them and there are many individual willing to volunteer specialise services.

    To be honest, it is not the " Daniel Levinsons " of the world I am interested in reading this, it is the PR honchos responsible to the MDs and investors. I can see Ebay and Western Union becoming " cheap and dirty investments ".

    I mean, who would invest in a criminal fence or a market place full of con men?

    Each time fraud, theft, organised crimine, Ebay and Western Union are mentioned together on the Web the better.

    Keep rattling their cage and something will be done about it.

    Report it to your local politician, local press and media.

    MA

     
  6. alex

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    hi, does anyone know of an account daneil levinson is using atm?if so can u please post the ebay username, item number and if possible an email address.
    or mail it to me [email protected]

    thanks
     
  7. alex

    alex New Member

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    theres underscores where it looks blank btw
     
  8. djbmckee

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    119 Millfield Road

    I won an auction last week. The seller's address was given as, you guessed it 119 Millfield Avenue, London E17. The seller is pressing for payment before delivery through western union (again sounds very familiar).

    I must thank all of you on the forum here, because it was, in a large part, due to the matters raised here, which I discovered when carrying out a serach on the seller's details, that I decided to withhold immediate payment.

    At present I have not paid (£890) and have reported my suspicions to e-bay, who I understand have suspended the seller's account in the meantime.

    Rahti's comments may be flippant but it is probably true that all the names that are provided are false, and that the occupant of 119 Millfield Avenue may indeed be entirely ignorant of these matters.

    The e-mail correspondence is still continuing in my purported transaction and I will endeavour to illicit as many details as possible.

    Thanks to you all again.

    B.


    In my case the e-mail was in the name of Roberto Porta, the alleged name of the individual using the e-mail was Linda Sorano.

    As stated, the English is appalling.

    Basic questions about the serial number of the item, the place it was originally purchased, warranties etc, were ignored.

    The item for sale in my case was an american laptop. It could not be purchased in the UK. therefore there were issues as to the payment of VAT upon import (duty on laptops from the US is 0%).

    I contacted Leyton police within a day of winning the auction. The problem is catching these criminals red handed. Not so easy. My experience of paramilitaries in Northern Ireland would suggest that addresses of the vulnerable are often used to cover tracks (for example weapons would be stored in the houses of elderly or confused residents who could be easily intimidated or misled). Names used in transactions (such as in money laudering or petty fraud) would be fictitious.

    Police resources are limited.

    What to do?

    Perhaps if I was to offer cash to be collected at a specific agent there is the possibility of catching someone, but again, if my experience of crime here is anyhting to go by then I would not expect one of the main players to expose him/herself to such a risk. It is easier to say to someone in the pub .."here's an id go down to the western union and pick up the money, there's £50 in it for you". We'll be watching. No names exchanged. Little or no risk.

    Anyway, that's the latest.

    Let you know when the item fails to turn up.

    BTW the fraudster is still e-mailing me, pressing for payment. So it would seem that he/she doesn't foolow this thread.


    cheers,

    Brian.
     
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  9. macangels

    macangels New Member

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    Ebay Western Union Fraud - vaiadracu2003 - Porta , Serano or Levinson E17 5HN

    Ebay Western Union Fraud - vaiadracu2003 - Porta , Serano or Levinson London E17 5HN

    Ebay have just reported another ID using the same address as the " Levinson " fraudsters.

    Buyers beware.

    They tried to rip a different bidder off 625 GBP.

    Please note that a pattern is clear. They are copying other Ebay auctions, mostly from the US, pretty much word for word and using the same images from the original ad.

    Their English is actually very poor, although the adverts seem confident because they are copies of genuine ones. I doubt they can answer proper questions about their alleged items so ask loads of informed questions if you doubt your seller. See if the English matches the auctions.

    So far we have seen;

    mobile telephones,
    designer handbags,
    expensive woodwind instruments,
    laptops,
    racing bicycles.

    what next?

    In this alleged fraud the ID used was as follows.

    Ebay ID : vaiadracu2003

    Email : roberto porta <[email protected]

    Details given :

    Name: Linda Serano
    Address:119 Millfield Avenue
    ZIP:E17 5HN
    City: London
    Country: United Kingdom
     
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  10. macangels

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    Re: 119 Millfield Road

    Hi

    can you please edit your post to include the fraudsters Ebay ID when you are ready?

    You dont need to add a new post unless you wish just use the Edit button.

    It is worth learning how to track individuals from the Email headers if you do not know how to do so already.

    There seems to be a Romanian connection here.

    Thanks,

    MA

     
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  11. djbmckee

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    My trace on the e-mail gave:

    80.96.229.39
    dacoinvest2.catv.onix.ro

    The romanian connection again.

    Perhaps the simplest solution is to try to make e-bay verify the address and e-mail of sellers.

    A simple programme such as visual route or e-mail tracker would do the trick.

    So, there seems to be a romanian connection. But in order to identify 119 Millfiled Avenue as a useful address there must be someone in England. This person presumably has the false passport and ID to convince the scrupulous agents of western union that they are who they say they are.

    well i suppose it's a prime example of caveat emptor
     
  12. agentOrange

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    other "deals" from 119 MILLFIELD AVE

    Hello to Everyone!

    I’ve spotted some other “great deals” from that person;
    This time he/she tried to sell Spectrum Analyzers, an expensive piece of testing equipment made by HP. The fraudster used my pictures and decryption to compose his/her fake listings. I’ve reported to eBay and they suspended the account.

    I found this forum because I have emailed this faker asking for “buy-It-Now” price and payment instructions pretending that I’m interesting in his auctions. He replied me with payment instruction for 119 Millfield ave, I then went to google…

    Now, the details:

    A)
    ID: johnbro8523
    Email: [email protected]
    ITEM: 3819031737
    IP: bobalca.catv.onix.ro has address 194.102.104.182

    B)
    ID:equpame
    Email: [email protected]
    ITEM:3819374852
    ITEM:3819374867
    ITEM:3819374897

    IP***: AC816FFC.ipt.aol.com has address 172.129.111.252

    Cheers,
    :)Konstantin

    ======
    ***NOTE:while this one is a real IP from US AOL's pull, but it’s relatively easy to call up an AOL modem in US from anywhere in the world and get an AOL's IP, so it doesn’t really prove anything
     
  13. alex

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    i also traced the ip address of the ebayer djmcbee pointed out (thank u). it came up with an address in romania also,but im not sure as to whether they've used a proxy server of it is a legit ip address
     
  14. macangels

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    Ebay - Western Union fraud - Romanian Connection

    My guess is that it is legit. That seems to be what the computer fraud team is going on as well.

    There must be elements in London to collect the cash but Romania seems to have emerged as an international centre of credit card fraud for some reason.

    It probably ties in with " pickpocket tourism " in tourist centres like London which explains the London connection.

    We have a problem with East European criminal elements coming over for a crime holiday, entire families. They sell a little illegal cigarettes, beg and pick pocket their way through the Underground railway network and then go back home after the summer. Men, women and children all gainfuly employed.

    The " frontline ", with traditional criminal skills, probably stole the ID, taking the cash as their cut and someone else is now milking it. Someone back in Romania buys the passports and credit cards and gives some other junior " mastermind " that can actually use a PC back home is given the job of milking trusting naive " too-rich-and-too-soft-by-their-standards " Ebay users. I guess they reckon we are all asking for it.

    They dont even have to feel guilty by looking their victims in the eye any more and dont have to risk being caught in person on camera. A considerable amount of the cash gained with go back into other darker crimes.

    The next thing to do is contact the ISP in Romania and ask them to check their logs to see where the criminal is dialing up. Not exactly rocket science to do. The ISP needs the IP address and time sent but will be able to pinpoint which client it came from.

    Hassle your own political representatives and the Romanian embassies to change matters. Now with the opening of Europe, my guess it will get worse not better.

    MA

     
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    I did some checks on IP I posted:

    It’s some kind of *NIX box, www is open but has no index.html file.
    That box is running all bunch of different services:

    Port State Service
    22/tcp filtered ssh
    69/tcp filtered tftp
    80/tcp open http
    135/tcp filtered loc-srv
    136/tcp filtered profile
    137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
    138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
    139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
    445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
    593/tcp filtered http-rpc-epmap
    3306/tcp open mysql
    4444/tcp filtered krb524
    5000/tcp filtered UPnP

    I’m not sure if it’s a personal box or not, but I do not think it is a proxy. That company onix sells inet access via cable, so that ip looks like the end, + no open/firewalled proxy service is running – you cannot use from remote. Even if it is a proxy – it must be very small one, just to cover several nodes. Also, note that the both IPs are from *.catv.onix.ro – the same ISP, the same cable inet service.
     
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    details about IP that was posted by djbmckee (thanks)

    Interesting ports on dacoinvest2.catv.onix.ro (80.96.229.39):
    (The 1576 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
    Port State Service
    22/tcp filtered ssh
    23/tcp filtered telnet
    69/tcp filtered tftp
    111/tcp filtered sunrpc
    135/tcp filtered loc-srv
    136/tcp filtered profile
    137/tcp filtered netbios-ns
    138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm
    139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn
    445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
    514/tcp filtered shell
    515/tcp filtered printer
    593/tcp filtered http-rpc-epmap
    4444/tcp filtered krb524
    5000/tcp filtered UPnP
    6000/tcp filtered X11
    6001/tcp filtered X11:1
    6002/tcp filtered X11:2
    6003/tcp filtered X11:3
    6004/tcp filtered X11:4
    6005/tcp filtered X11:5
    6006/tcp filtered X11:6
    6007/tcp filtered X11:7
    6008/tcp filtered X11:8
    6009/tcp filtered X11:9
    Remote OS guesses: Linux Kernel 2.4.0 - 2.5.20

    I can only tell that it is not a server, because servers do not run a buch ot X-windows sessions.
     
  17. macangels

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    More Ebay fraud from Romania info

    This might be useful information or helpful contacts,

    Other activists tracing Romanian [ and other country ] Ebay Fraudsters, including IP addresses and ISPs.

    http://cigars.bravepages.com/fraudfactory.htm

    MA
     
  18. alex

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    wow macangels, how do you get all this info!?
    thanks for that site you posted, and as im not exactly an expert with computers you might be able to help me.

    it says on the site:
    "Some of these rogue spamers are sending the virus spam, W32/Netsky-U, is the biggest. W32/Netsky-S and W32/Netsky-U have a backdoor component listening for connections on TCP port 6789 allowing an unauthorized program to download and execute arbitrary code on the infected computer. Which would allow for the harvesting of Ebay and paypal passwords. Which would account for the rate of Ebay account Hijackings."

    so does this mean if you're firewall is conifgured to not let through info from TCP port 6789 that these hackers cannot gain the info from your PC?
    or will a firewall stop them altogether?

    thanks,
    alex

    (and uxbridge police still havent contacted me after all this time, even after 2 reminder phonecalls. the police are useless and so i have no respect for them anymore)
     
  19. macangels

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    Levinson Western Union Ebay Fraud - Spam connection

    Hi,

    well the great thing about the internet is that you do not need to know anything, just how or where to find what you need.

    That would have to be firewall blocked for any outward traffic on that port. But my guess if they would change regularly.

    Probably better to sign up to a spam / virus filtering service such as Spamcop.net that removes all viruses before they get to you, cost $ 30 per year.

    Interestingly, Spamhaus.org - another leading spam filtering / blacklist services - has a representative called Danny Levinson!

    I am absolutely positive that he is not the man we are looking for but this may be linked. The fraudsters and spammers being connected in harvesting user names and passwords via phishing.

    Perhaps another piece to the jigsaw.

    MA

     
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    New Ebay Fraud at 117 Millfield Ave E17 5HN - [email protected]

    Hi

    Just a report of another fraud from the Millfield Avenue Mob, this time with a very successful ending.

    Auctions halted before they ended.

    Auctions for mobile phones again; 6304301588 and others on Ebay.

    The new fraud ID is

    [email protected]

    with the alias 'Jerry Basset'

    Same address as usual.

    Address: 119 Millfield Avenue
    Zip Code: E17 5HN
    City: London
    State: England

    Sellers ID was stolen, since recovered.

    Good work guys.

    MA
     

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