Am I a subject of any of the Nevada Revised Statutes? Justice System, Police, Courts

A "legal fiction" ... Uh ... you mean, like, Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn? Or, are you refering to yourself?

Then you understand incorrectly. You don't have to recognize the laws of the state you are in for them to apply to you, sorry.

So, essentially you acted asinine to the court and the court granted you time to obtain legal counsel prior to sentencing. Is that about right?

Okay, in short you are asking if you can withdraw your "guilty" or "no contest" plea and go to trial? If the court has not accepted the plea, yet, sure. If they have, you may have to work with an attorney to try and get this accomplished. Of course your prior plea can likely be used against you in any subsequent trial, so it may be a grave mistake to try and play this "sovereign citizen" card as it could get you a maximum term for the offenses under which you are charged instead of a more generous penalty that might be available under a plea.

You can spout off about not recognizing the court's jurisdiction, contracts, non-persons, corporate entities, ad nauseum, all you like. In the end, you are still subject to the laws of the state whether you want to be or not. So, you can either deal with the situation as it exists, or, continue to be deluded and suffer the consequences of your actions. It's your call.

 

Your sovereign gobbledygook will get you nowhere in a hurry. If the matter occurred within the geographical jurisdiction of the state of Nevada then you are subject to those statutes. If you don't like it then leave Nevada. However, in doing so you become subject to the laws of the next jurisdiction. Such is life.

 

You're always free to plan, plot, and execute your escape from the USA.
Problem is, there's another REGIME wherever you arrive.
Being a peasant is rather pleasant.
So, it's your call, boss.
Good luck.

 

NRS 0.039  “Person” defined.  Except as otherwise expressly provided in a particular statute or required by the context, “person” means a natural person, any form of business or social organization and any other nongovernmental legal entity including, but not limited to, a corporation, partnership, association, trust or unincorporated organization. The term does not include a government, governmental agency or political subdivision of a government.


NRS 194.010  Persons capable of committing crimes.  All persons are liable to punishment except those belonging to the following classes:

***** 1.  Children under the age of 8 years.

***** 2.  Children between the ages of 8 years and 14 years, in the absence of clear proof that at the time of committing the act charged against them they knew its wrongfulness.

***** 3.  Persons who committed the act charged or made the omission charged in a state of insanity.

***** 4.  Persons who committed the act or made the omission charged under an ignorance or mistake of fact, which disproves any criminal intent, where a specific intent is required to constitute the offense.

***** 5.  Persons who committed the act charged without being conscious thereof.

***** 6.  Persons who committed the act or made the omission charged, through misfortune or by accident, when it appears that there was no evil design, intention or culpable negligence.

***** 7.  Persons, unless the crime is punishable with death, who committed the act or made the omission charged under threats or menaces sufficient to show that they had reasonable cause to believe, and did believe, their lives would be endangered if they refused, or that they would suffer great bodily harm.

***** [1911 C&P § 3; RL § 6268; NCL § 9952]—(NRS A*1979, 145;*1981, 1660;*1995, 2467;*2001 Special Session, 136;*2003, 1480)

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NRS 194.020  Persons liable to punishment.  The following persons, except as provided in*NRS 194.010, are liable to punishment:

***** 1.  A person who commits in the State any crime, in whole or in part.

***** 2.  A person who commits out of the State any act which, if committed within it, would be larceny, and is afterward found in the State with any of the stolen property.

***** 3.  A person who, being out of the State, counsels, causes, procures, aids or abets another to commit a crime in this State.

***** 4.  A person who, being out of the State, abducts or kidnaps, by force or fraud, any person, contrary to the laws of the place where the act is committed, and brings, sends or conveys such person into this State.

***** 5.  A person who commits an act without the State which affects persons or property within the State, or the public health, morals or decency of the State, which, if committed within the State, would be a crime.

***** [1911 C&P § 2; RL § 6267; NCL § 9951]




NRS 234.020  Filing of maps of state boundaries.  All maps of state boundaries are filed with the Division of State Lands of the State Department of Conservation and Natural Resources.



US Constitution 14th Amendment:
Section 1.*All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside....

 

The victim in your matter is the people of the state of Nevada. The same people who elected their representatives to enact the laws for public health and safety and for all to follow. The state prosecutor is tasked with representing the interests of those people regarding your crime against them.

 

As interesting as your argument is, FREE WILL, they don't care.
They have all of us under their boot, and if we protest too vehemently, they will shackle you in more ways than you can imagine.
We aren't as FREE as some might have you believe.
The remaining vestige of any freedom left can only be expressed by a jury, if they agree to use their power to nullify THEIR laws.

 

FreeAtWill, all your rhetoric aside, your refusal to acknowledge or understand the law will not exempt you from it. It just will not.

So, continue tilting at the windmill if you wish, but understand that these arguments fail every time. So, enjoy your academic exercise, but save your pennies for the ensuing fines, and get your worldly affairs in order should you be sentenced to jail time for whatever offense it is that you have been charged with.

 

It took about five minutes to look up.

They become binding by your existing or remaining within the jurisdiction covered by the statutes. As previously stated, if you do not want to be held accountable to Nevada's laws then leave Nevada. If you want to live somewhere outside the reach of any form of government you might have to begin a colony on the moon.

Sort of. It really applies because the people of Nevada, via their elected representatives in the legislature, say that it applies to all persons in their jurisdiction, excepting only a few. The law did not create itself, people did.

Again, you are a free person. You may leave the oppressive regime in Nevada any time you choose. Do not expect to remain and gain sympathy from those you spite.

According to my map New York is in the United States, and unless you are centuries old New York was a state at the time of your birth. Like it or not, at birth you were a US citizen and citizen of New York. If you have since taken up residence in another state then you are a citizen of that state. There is a formal procedure you may follow if you would like to renounce your citizenship, but be prepared to be deported to your moon colony.

The only people who believe that are those who subscribe to sovereign citizen gobbledygook.

They are referring to the citizens of Nevada who are represented in court by their elected representative, the District Attorney or Deputy DA's.

I bet the jails are full of people who thought the same thing. The citizens of the state, as a whole, are the victim of your public offense. With your reasoning it would be fine to go into a crowded place and start shooting guns so long as you don't actually injure anyone or intend to. I suspect you confuse the need for damages with elements of civil law that are not necessarily present under criminal law.

There are ways to carry the weapon legally. You apparently chose to not comply with the law. How could you harm someone? By picking up the weapon and using it, perhaps like these other misguided sovereign citizens:

https://youtu.be/9P61RJ3ILrE
https://youtu.be/Ky7g_I7jvUY
https://youtu.be/c6leakkrbX4

It was binding the moment you were born whether you came to agree with it years later or not. Again, you can renounce your citizenship and move elsewhere if you don't like it. It isn't a matter of contracts.

Signatures have nothing to do with it. The document was accepted and ratified by every state for many years after. Regardless of who wrote it and what authority you might think they lacked, it was accepted as is. Your dissent does not matter. Again, renounce and move if you are not happy with the law of the land.

People across the country say so, and they do it on a regular basis when they elect their representatives to participate in the government established by the Constitution and to uphold its laws.

 

MM, you have much more patience with these yay-hoos than I do ... Too many years of playing on the Merry-go-round with their senseless logic I suppose.

 

I'm just playing the game. It's the same misguided theory every time. I suppose they either come to their senses at some point while sitting in jail or end up in one of those YouTube videos.

 

I often wonder what I would do if one of those yo-yos stuck a camera in my face ... but, then I remember that I don't work at a courthouse so unless they came to the PD to try and make a point about something, my only worry would be running into one on the street. Of course, that can be scarier than the video because some of these guys are willing to kill cops to get their point across! I ran into one of the more rabid ones only once, when I was a rookie ... had I known then what I know now, I would have handled it differently than I did. As it was, he tried to hand me a ream of papers explaining why he didn't need a license and why he did not need to register his car. He finally signed the citation when his car was getting towed and he realized from the back seat of my car in cuffs that he'd go to jail if he didn't.

 

If it got down to it I hope you would handle it like this...

https://youtu.be/RfVbiefMdNU

 

I don't know that I would have Tasered him at that point (yet), but, I sure understand the desire to keep the matter under control.

What IS IT about those guys?

 

I met one of the "sovereigns" once many years ago during my early days on the bench.
He was acting as his own lawyer in a DUI case.
He began arguing with the prosecutor eventually becoming belligerent with the prosecutor, my bailiff, and the arresting officer who was attempting to testify.
The courtroom began to laugh at the entire thing, and I began to smile.
I said, "Order, we will have order."
Well, after going back and forth, I cited him with contempt, and gave him seven days.
The next day I get a message that he wished to apologize to me.
I had him brought before an open courtroom, and he was contrite, remorseful, and apologetic, even admitting to the error of his ways.
I advised him that he's free to believe whatever he wishes, but the State of Texas has laws and rules that apply to everyone, not a select few.
I accepted his apology, ordered him released, and reconvened his DUI trial the next day.
He was convicted, received 30 days in jail, suspended, and a year's probation, fines, and license suspension.
The guy owns a cattle ranch, still believes in that sovereign nonsense, but acknowledges its more like being a communist, a Nazi, or any other fringe political belief.
Moose, your approach in dealing with those on the fringe is the best way, engage them, if possible.