Petitioner's Prove Up Declaration For Divorce

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Jim Clayton

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Hello. I'm trying to find out what /s/ on a signature line of a document means. I'm being told by my lawyer that it authorizes them to sign documents for me. I see two back-slashes and an S and my signature being added to documents that I have never seen and then filed without my knowledge.
 
Jim Clayton said:
I'm trying to find out what /s/ on a signature line of a document means.
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When you asked the person who created the document in question, what response did you receive? What sort of document are we talking about?

In my experience, the "/s/" is occasionally put on copies to indicate that there's an original signed version of the document.


Jim Clayton said:
I'm being told by my lawyer that it authorizes them to sign documents for me.
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Who are "them"?
 
Jim Clayton said:
Hello. I'm trying to find out what /s/ on a signature line of a document means. I'm being told by my lawyer that it authorizes them to sign documents for me. I see two back-slashes and an S and my signature being added to documents that I have never seen and then filed without my knowledge.
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It means that it is a "conformed signature." (Look it up.)
 
Jim Clayton said:
I'm trying to find out what /s/ on a signature line of a document means. I'm being told by my lawyer that it authorizes them to sign documents for me. I see two back-slashes and an S and my signature being added to documents that I have never seen and then filed without my knowledge.
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Jim Clayton said:
Does it authorize my attorney to sign documents for me?
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What is a Conformed Signature?
A conformed signature is a typed signature that is utilized to allow for fast and frictionless signing of documents online. A conformed signature replaces the traditional signature line with a typed name preceded with a "/s/" designation. A conformed signature will resemble something like the example below.

/s/ Joe Shmoe

Joe Shmoe

There are many different ways that a conformed signature can be written, and the United States Patent and Trademark Office provides resources to what formatting an electronic signature should follow.

Different governing bodies have different regulations regarding acceptable formatting for conformed signatures.

Because of these differences it is important to have a competent and tech savvy legal team like BizCounsel. As a business owner, your signatures are constantly needed, and the ability to utilize a conformed signature whenever possible will save time and effort.

Having a legal resource that acknowledges the importance of your time and providing e-signatures whenever possible is a must.

Why Is It Used?
A conformed signature is utilized mainly as a way of making signing contracts and documents easier. Convenience of a conformed signature is what has drawn many to utilize it, and some government agencies now accept it in lieu of a traditional signature.

The conformed signature eliminates the need for an individual to print, sign, and scan a document to submit it electronically. To save paper and reduce the number of intermediary steps, conformed signatures offer a perfect efficient solution to a signature.

Conformed signatures allow for a seamless process of viewing, signing, and submitting a document all without having to print or scan. Conformed signatures can be utilized in a number of ways and gives a signer the option to how they are able to digitally sign a document.

Conformed signatures can be easily done from a smartphone, tablet, laptop, or other mobile device, drastically increasing the speed at which individuals can certify a document.

Additionally, a conformed signature is a great tool for attorneys to quickly and efficiently certify dozens of documents at once. The U.S. Northern District Court of California is one court that offers the utilization of conformed signatures for attorneys. From the courts website, "all documents submitted under the attorney's login and password are automatically considered signed by that attorney, so the login and password are considered the attorney's "electronic signature.""

This process allows for countless hours saved for attorneys, giving them the opportunity to focus more energy on their clients, and less time printing, signing, and scanning.

When the client is prioritized, a lawyer is able to better serve them with the quality guidance they need.

When Can It Be Used?
E-signatures, and more specifically, conformed signatures, are not a full substitute for legal handwritten signatures. The signature itself is not more reliable than a standard signature, and as such, makes the acceptance of e-signatures vary greatly, especially when it comes to geographic location.

The two regulations regarding e-signatures are the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act and the Uniform Electronic Transaction Act, which give a basis for the inability to deny a document's validity only on the basis that it has an electronic signature.

Ultimately, it is the states' decision in whether or not to accept conformed and electronic signatures.

Because these laws vary from state to state and agency to agency, it is important to ensure that a business has legal representation that is well-versed in the process of online signing and document submission. Documents signed inappropriately can lead to costly and time-consuming missteps. In the world of legal filings, this could mean the difference between the closure of a successful business deal or a costly mistake.

BizCounsel has a team of highly trained and highly diverse lawyers that are able to ensure that your legal documents are as they should be, saving you time, effort, and money. Leave the guesswork out of your legal needs and allow a BizCounsel lawyer guide you through your paperwork. A lawyer will be able to navigate the different signature requirements for different documents and can ensure that they are done correctly to reduce inefficiencies in having to refile for something that was done incorrectly the first time.

Conclusion
Overall, the "/s/" in a signature line signifies that a conformed signature is being utilized in lieu of a traditional handwritten signature.

There are many forms of e-signatures and each have specific utilizations and formatting requirements. The s-signature is a great e signature method that can be utilized by many people.

The ease of use and convenience of the signature type has allowed for businesses and attorneys to waste less precious time and energy printing, signing, and scanning documents, and more time to focus on their clients.

When looking into getting legal assistance, it is advised to look for lawyers that readily utilize new technology to eliminate inefficiencies. Traditional lawyers are paid by the hour and benefit from time-consuming, antiquated technology.

For the new wave of legal assistance services like BizCounsel, the business owner's precious time is valued more than squeezing every last penny out of each hour.

The utilization of electronic signatures is just one way in which a lawyer is able to save time and facilitate a smoother experience for their clients. Save the legal headaches surrounding what type of signature to use to the professionals. Having BizCounsel as a part of your team is a sure way to increase efficiency and simultaneously increase the legal competency of your business.

Sources:

https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/sigexamples_alt_text.pdf

Signatures On E-Filed Documents | United States District Court, Northern District of California

13 Soon-to-Be Outdated Business Technologies | BusinessCollective

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...9/electronic-signatures-contracts-agreements/

https://esignrecords.org/2016/11/29...ures-global-national-commerce-act-esign-full/

Uniform Electronic Transaction Act

What Does /s/ Mean in a Signature and Why is It Used?
 
Jim Clayton said:
I'm being told by my attorney that it gives my attorney the power to sign documents with my name, as "attorney of record".
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That's not exactly correct. The "/s/" doesn't give our attorney the power to do anything. YOU give your attorney the power to sign your name, and the "/s/" is just s different way of signing your name. Read up on it ("conformed signature")
 
Hello again. I'm going to ask one more question on this. Thank you in advance for all of the help. Brief summary:
Going through a divorce with child. Wife has her attorney, I have mine. We've gone thru mediation, have a custody agreement in place, have reached terms of our separation. We've done the 60days. Are in the final stages. My wife received the divorce decree and signed, as did I. Wife's attorney received two additional documents that I had never seen. A BVS Form and a Petitioners Prove Up Declaration. Both had incorrect information. The Prove Up stated "I (insert my name) declare under penalty of perjury that the following facts are within my knowledge and are true and correct." It had my name signed to it. I had never seen, received, or signed this document. Someone in my attorney's office signed my name to it. I asked her about it. She lied about it. Twice. And then said she would send me new documents via docusign. I haven't signed them. I don't know what I should do. I could really use some guidance. Tks.
 
Jim Clayton said:
Hello again. I'm going to ask one more question on this. Thank you in advance for all of the help. Brief summary:
Going through a divorce with child. Wife has her attorney, I have mine. We've gone thru mediation, have a custody agreement in place, have reached terms of our separation. We've done the 60days. Are in the final stages. My wife received the divorce decree and signed, as did I. Wife's attorney received two additional documents that I had never seen. A BVS Form and a Petitioners Prove Up Declaration. Both had incorrect information. The Prove Up stated "I (insert my name) declare under penalty of perjury that the following facts are within my knowledge and are true and correct." It had my name signed to it. I had never seen, received, or signed this document. Someone in my attorney's office signed my name to it. I asked her about it. She lied about it. Twice. And then said she would send me new documents via docusign. I haven't signed them. I don't know what I should do. I could really use some guidance. Tks.
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Is the divorce being finalized in the way that you understood it would be?
 
Jim Clayton said:
The overall summary was correct. It did have the errors that I previously mentioned that needed to be corrected. And the document was signed without my knowledge or consent.
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Talk to your attorney about it.
 
zddoodah said:
So...call your lawyer.
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Here's the situation as I see it. Feel free to give me your own perspective. While my attorney may have been acting in my interest, I would not have even known this document existed had it not been for my wife's attorney. When I asked her about it she lied to me about it, more than once. I could theoretically ask for copies of any and all documents with my signature and not know if I'm actually getting all of them. I'm left wondering what the hell else my signature was signed to. The fraudulent document was already submitted without my knowledge...pretty certain thats a crime.
 

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