- Jurisdiction
- New York
Hello all,
The other night my son and his friends made the foolhardy decision of drinking a few beers in his car in a public park after dark, while he had a recently expired license. We live in Suffolk County, New York. Long story short, they were approached by officers who gave him four tickets. He fortunately did not get a DUI as he was just below the legal limit, the keys were out of the ignition, and the officer was lenient.
The four tickets were as follows:
-"Did operate a motor vehicle with an expired license" - in violation of 509.1, and the only traffic ticket he received
-"Was under the influence of intoxicating liquor" - in violation of 643-4A(3)
-"Did enter and remain in a county park after it was closed to the public in violation of a posted notice" - in violation of 643-4A(8)
-"Did possess an alcoholic beverage in a county park in violation of posted sign" - in violation of 643-4A(17)
Luckily, the only ticket pertinent to a motor vehicle was the first one (expired license). The latter three were not traffic tickets, but were written on an entirely different form, which I am guessing is related specifically to state parks. The rules they violated can all be found here, under the "Prohibited Acts" section of NY State Park Rules and Regulations: Suffolk County, NY: Rules and Regulations
The officer suggested that if my son renewed his license by the time of his hearing, he would have a decent chance of having the charge dismissed. He intends to plead guilty to the last three charges.
However, I am concerned about the possibility of the last three charges having auto insurance ramifications, although they do not deal with a motor vehicle. Could the alcohol violations be associated with operation of a motor vehicle, even though they are not traffic tickets, since they occurred at the same time as the expired license violation? And could an insurance company have access to state park rules violations, because they occurred at the same time as the expired license violation? If he is able to get the expired license charge dismissed (which the officer suggested he could), is there any possibility that the last three charges can result in a hike to my insurance premium? He is under my insurance plan.
Thank you for your time and responses.
The other night my son and his friends made the foolhardy decision of drinking a few beers in his car in a public park after dark, while he had a recently expired license. We live in Suffolk County, New York. Long story short, they were approached by officers who gave him four tickets. He fortunately did not get a DUI as he was just below the legal limit, the keys were out of the ignition, and the officer was lenient.
The four tickets were as follows:
-"Did operate a motor vehicle with an expired license" - in violation of 509.1, and the only traffic ticket he received
-"Was under the influence of intoxicating liquor" - in violation of 643-4A(3)
-"Did enter and remain in a county park after it was closed to the public in violation of a posted notice" - in violation of 643-4A(8)
-"Did possess an alcoholic beverage in a county park in violation of posted sign" - in violation of 643-4A(17)
Luckily, the only ticket pertinent to a motor vehicle was the first one (expired license). The latter three were not traffic tickets, but were written on an entirely different form, which I am guessing is related specifically to state parks. The rules they violated can all be found here, under the "Prohibited Acts" section of NY State Park Rules and Regulations: Suffolk County, NY: Rules and Regulations
The officer suggested that if my son renewed his license by the time of his hearing, he would have a decent chance of having the charge dismissed. He intends to plead guilty to the last three charges.
However, I am concerned about the possibility of the last three charges having auto insurance ramifications, although they do not deal with a motor vehicle. Could the alcohol violations be associated with operation of a motor vehicle, even though they are not traffic tickets, since they occurred at the same time as the expired license violation? And could an insurance company have access to state park rules violations, because they occurred at the same time as the expired license violation? If he is able to get the expired license charge dismissed (which the officer suggested he could), is there any possibility that the last three charges can result in a hike to my insurance premium? He is under my insurance plan.
Thank you for your time and responses.