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Suge knight possible release?

Discussion in 'Criminal Procedure, Criminal Court' started by Youngster, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. Youngster

    Youngster Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I heard about this as a possibility but how possible is it with a new president and vp, (Biden and Harris I feel better adding) and the governor status in CA (Gavin or not) that suge knight will be pardoned? I saw the list of people trump pardoned and suge was not on the list. The world is honestly safer with him not on the streets.
     
  2. cbg

    cbg Super Moderator

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    You really are obsessing about this,aren't you?

    What possible incentive would Joe Biden have to pardon him?
     
  3. adjusterjack

    adjusterjack Super Moderator

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    I deleted your other post as it was a duplicate of this post. No need to post the same topic in more than one thread.

    Trump's last minute pardons were the acts of a vindictive loser.

    I doubt that Biden would waste a bead of sweat on the matter.
     
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  4. cbg

    cbg Super Moderator

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    Biden has no incentive to pardon Suge Knight. If you want my honest opinion of the likelihood that Knight will be pardoned - it is zero. I don't care how many petitions there are, petitions do not have the force of law and create no obligation on the part of whoever is president.

    It's not going to happen. Quit obsessing over it.
     
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  5. Tax Counsel

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    With most Presidents, pardons and commutations are pretty rare. And after Trump's abuse of the pardon power I suspect that Biden will be even more careful about the pardons and commutations he gives because of the scrutiny he'll get. I think there is pretty much zero chance of Suge getting a pardon on his federal convictions.
     
  6. welkin

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    Where do you get the idea that pardons and commutations are pretty rare?
    Obama pardoned and commuted 1,927 in his term in office. Trump only 237. Most of the commutations were because of the trial penalty (a check and balance on fairness of the judicial branch).
    Trump used his clemency power sparingly despite a raft of late pardons and commutations

    I would like you to explain how Trump abused his pardon power.
     
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    Compared to the large number of people applying for such relief, it is historically pretty rare, especially the use of the pardon power. Very few of those applying for pardons actually get them from most presidents.

    Obama issued a large number of commutations as part of a program set up with specific requirements to provide relief to nonviolent offenders, mostly drug offenders, whose sentences were longer than those currently given due to changes in the law. Whether you agree with that choice or not, at least there was a stated policy reason for it and not simply given for political favors.


    IMO a number of Trump pardons were, in fact, given as purely political favors and paybacks without any real notion of doing true justice. You might disagree and think all his pardons were rightly justified. I don't. In my view more of his pardons as a percentage were poltical pay backs than those of many other presidents. Trump is not the first, however, to have abused the power. Others from both parties have made some pardon decisions that at best can be described as questionable. Some of President Clinton's pardons jump readily to mind, for example.
     
  8. zddoodah

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    If I'm not very much mistaken, the individual in question is incarcerated in a California state prison after conviction in a California superior court of violations of the California penal code.

    If I'm correct about that, then Donald Trump had and Joe Biden has no ability at all to pardon him, so the discussion about that is pointless to this tread. That power belongs entirely to California's governor, and I can't conceive that even Governor Nuisance would pardon such a person.
     
  9. welkin

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    You mean like in the general Flynn case?

    Perhaps you could give some examples where the Trump pardons were not in the interest of true justice.
     
  10. zddoodah

    zddoodah Well-Known Member

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    . . . take your political debate elsewhere.
     
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  11. welkin

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    I understand there is a job opening at Twitter if you're interested.
     
  12. cbg

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    Let's keep on the OP's topic, shall we?
     
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    In September 2018, upon pleading no contest to voluntary manslaughter charge in a fatal 2015 hit-and-run incident, Knight was sentenced to 28 years in prison.

    He is scheduled to become eligible for parole in July 2037.

    CALIFORNIA’S SENTENCING LAWS
    Most offenders are sentenced to California state prison for a set amount of time under the Determinate Sentencing Law (DSL). Determinate sentencing covers sentencing guidelines, mandatory minimum sentences, and enhanced sentences for certain crimes. Sentencing guidelines allow judges to consider the individual circumstances of the case when determining a sentence, whereas mandatory minimum and enhanced-sentence statutes leave little or no discretion to judges in setting the terms of a sentence.

    Offenders sentenced to determinate sentences are sentenced to a specific amount of time, such as seven years. Once the offender serves the specific time the offender is released to either parole or probation supervisor. Offenders serving determinate sentences may become eligible for a parole suitability hearing prior to their release date if they meet certain criteria.

    Most other offenders are sentenced under the Indeterminate Sentencing Law (ISL) and will serve a term of life with possibility of parole. Offenders sentenced to a life term with the possibility of parole cannot be released on parole until the BPH determines that they are ready to be returned to society.

    WHAT IS MEDICAL PAROLE?
    Penal Code Section 3550 requires that any prisoner who the head physician for the institution where the prisoner is located determines, as provided, is permanently medically incapacitated with a medical condition that renders the prisoner permanently unable to perform activities of basic daily living, and results in the prisoner requiring 24-hour care, and that incapacitation did not exist at the time of sentencing, shall be granted medical parole, if the Board of Parole Hearings determines that the conditions under which the prisoner would be released would not reasonably pose a threat to public safety. If granted medical parole, the offender would be assigned a Parole Agent, and if their condition improves, they can be returned to custody. The provisions of medical parole do not apply to any prisoner sentenced to death or life in prison without possibility of parole.

    Victims or victim next-of-kin who are registered to receive notification will receive information regarding the date and location of the hearing, and have the right to attend and participate in the medical parole hearing process. Note: In most cases, the offender will not be present for this hearing.

    Sentencing, Incarceration & Parole of Offenders - Office of Victim and Survivor Rights and Services (OVSRS)
     

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