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Rudy Giuliani’s NY State Law License Suspended Over ‘Demonstrably False’ Statements

Discussion in 'Other Legal Issues' started by army judge, Jun 24, 2021.

  1. army judge

    army judge Law Topic Starter Super Moderator

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    The author of the story obviously does not understand the NY court system. The first sentence reads: "In a ruling handed down by the New York State Supreme Court Thursday, the state’s Attorney Grievance Committee successfully moved to have the former New York mayor’s license suspended." The use of the phrase "the New York State Supreme Court" uses the singular to refer to the court, which is incorrect. In NY, a supreme court is the trial court of general jurisdiction and thus there are many of them, unlike in most other states where there is but one supreme court, which is the highest court in the state. That sentence contains another error. In New York the highest court is the New York Court of Appeals and the intermediate trial courts are the Supreme Courts, Appellete Division. The latter are the ones responsible for attorney regulation and discipline in the state. So by referring only to "the Supreme Court" rather than supreme court, appellate division, it screwed up twice in identifying the court. It's mistakes like this by general news media that make me extra careful in reading news stories about law related matters. General news reporters make an awful lot of mistakes when reporting on technical or complex matters in areas where they don't have the expertise.
     
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    army judge Law Topic Starter Super Moderator

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    I agree.

    I will only add that if one scrutinizes today's news accounts, one will also discover syntax, verb conjugation, as well as other grammatical errors.

    There was once a time where one could find no such errors, even among the smaller news outlets.
     
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    Or at least such errors were pretty rare. I agree we see many more instances of them today. Catching those errors is one of the roles of a good editor, and news outlets seem to have largely dispensed with the traditional role of the editor.
     
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    Like I said, if you're a subscriber... Sometimes quality costs money.
     
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    Interesting statement in the actual decision from the court:

    Respondent argues that there is no immediate threat of future harm, because he has and will continue to exercise personal discipline to forbear from discussing these matters in public anymore.

    to which the court's response was:

    Nothwithstanding respondent's claim that he has exercised self-restraint by not publicly commenting on the election, there are numerous instances demonstrating the opposite...

    ...respondent has made or condoned the following false statements just since the AGC brought this application for his interim suspension...

    Imminent threat to the public is established by this continuing pattern of respondent’s offending conduct and behavior. We cannot rely on respondent’s representations that he will exercise restraint while these proceedings are pending.
     
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    New York's court system is unusual in where supreme is not actually supreme and that's a glaring error to anyone involved in law here. I'm asuming this is political payback and potentially someone's desire to keep him away from impacting upcoming elections, which it wouldn't anyway. Rudy does seem not had much impact here for a long time. I met him over 20 years ago at Chelsea Piers when he was escorting his new lady around the city. A lot has changed since then.
     
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    I'm wondering if the two attorneys who got arrested for firebombing a NYPD van had any license action taken against them.
     
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    army judge Law Topic Starter Super Moderator

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    I'm guessing probably not.

    Some have called such actions "peaceful protesting".
     
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    It is a manifestation of weaponizing the civil and criminal legal systems. If they (and it doesn't matter who they are) disagree with you they go after your ability to earn a living by suspending or revoking you business license. It doesn't matter if you are a barber or a lawyer.
     
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    or Church or should I say specifically a Christian one.
     

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