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How to convict someone for welfare fraud Fraud, Embezzlement, Bad Checks

Discussion in 'Criminal Charges' started by Dillion1, Feb 9, 2023.

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  1. Dillion1

    Dillion1 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    How would you go about getting someone a charge when you have evidence they are committing massive welfare fraud? They are getting EBT and cash aid and not reporting their income from their illegal tattoo business or other persons in the home income.

    I made a report to the D.A. with the evidence I had and they went and talked to the person and gave them a warning, I gave them more evidence it was still happening and they did nothing. I have submitted evidence over the past 6 months and they have done nothing.

    How can I get the charge so they stop doing it?
     
  2. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    Some people take the ALLEGED evidence of the crime and give it to the state's attorney general.

    CA AG =

    Report a Crime


    SNAP Fraud Reporting

    California
    Report by:

    Phone: (800) 344-8477

    Email: FraudHotline@dss.ca.gov


    FNS takes aggressive measures to fight all fraud. We appreciate the help of concerned citizens.

    Fraud reports of any kind may be filed with the USDA Office of Inspector General. Home | U.S. Department of Agriculture OIG


    You can also report fraud to your state. This is especially important if you think someone has lied about their income or assets or is misusing their benefits. Your report is confidential.

    Call the USDA Office of Inspector General:
    (800) 424-9121
    (202) 690-1622
    (202) 690-1202 (TDD)
    Write:
    United States Department of Agriculture Office of Inspector General
    PO Box 23399
    Washington, DC 20026-3399

    Submit a Complaint Online
    Home | U.S. Department of Agriculture OIG

    Be very careful if you do report a person, you might be considered a "narc" or a "cheese eating rat".

    In some cases, once a felon is arrested, the felon's relatives, pals, cohorts often find out WHO SNITCHED and make the RAT'S OR SNITCH'S life miserable, assuming they don't KILL the reporting person.
     
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    cbg Super Moderator

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    What you CANNOT do, however, is force any given agency to act. ALL you can do is make the report and they will decide if it warrants investigation or further action. if they decide against it, there is no law you can invoke or action you can take that will force them to.
     
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    adjusterjack Super Moderator

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    What is your relationship to this person?
    Why is this your business?
    What did this person do to you to make you want to see this person in jail?
    What "evidence" do you have?
    How did you get it?
     
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    stealthy1 Active Member

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    I had the same questions...
     
  6. Zigner

    Zigner Well-Known Member

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    Nor can the OP expect to be informed of the results of any investigation that may (or may not) take place.
     
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    zddoodah Well-Known Member

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    I would report what I knew to the appropriate authorities.

    How is it that you're privy to the details of these persons' private financial matters?

    Legit question: Why do you care?

    Unless you are being personally impacted by what's happening, there isn't anything you can (legally) do beyond what you've already done.
     
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    cbg Super Moderator

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    Raise your hand if you think the person in question is the OP's ex. (raises own hand)
     
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    army judge Super Moderator

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  10. Redemptionman

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    Hard to prove, really not worth your time but there are websites out there for SSDI and other benefits where you can click a link to suspected fraud. I will tell you it is a waste of time though as the system doesn't care and everybody is out to get all the FREE money they can. VA admin lets 600 credit score multiple time bankrupt winners get 300-400k homes with no verifiable income get mortgages so why do they care about the massive fraud that goes on? The government has a magic eraser to allow these people to do whatever they want and you more than likely would get into trouble for accusing them for the crimes which they commit.

    Great system, awesome. Which is why the crazies run the government and we live in a magic world of make believe.
     
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    I disagree with that. The "system" does care and there have been convictions for fraud (both internal and external) in the welfare system. The problem is that there are many more fraudsters than there are enforcers.
     
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    I agree. That's pretty much all you can do. Note that generally the appropriate authority is typically the agency issuing the benefits unless some other agency is tasked with the enforcement of the welfare fraud. For example, for some federal benefits it may be the FBI would be the most appropriate contact. The agency issuing benefits should be able to tell you whom to contact. Indeed, on most websites for such agencies there will be a page that tells you how to report suspected fraud, waste, and abuse of agency funds.
     
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    My hand is up.

    I figure the OP got dumped and wants to go scorched earch against the dumper.
     
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    You don't. You've passed on the information, the DA chose not to do anything with it, move on.

    Given your "success" so far, I suggest you move on before legal action is taken against you.
     
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    I so had that thought yesterday!
     

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