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Discussion in 'Other Family Law Matters' started by Amanda S. K., Jul 23, 2019.

  1. Amanda S. K.

    Amanda S. K. Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I have these friends that Big Bend Child welfare (DCF/cps) came in and took these kids with out a judge signing off on it, and there was no investigation done. And these kids have been removed and separated. Now they threaten to take the unborn child from the mother as soon as she has it. there was no notice given no paperwork sent nothing of the sort to give them probable cause or reasoning to remove these children. The DCF department has already had an investigator arrested for falsifying reports. I know what's right and I know what's legal and what's illegal what I do not know is how to go about fighting this without a lawyer because these people are poor and they cannot afford a lawyer. I guess my question is is this legal and how do I go about pursuing it to get these children back?
     
  2. justblue

    justblue Well-Known Member

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    You can do nothing...except perhaps hire an attorney for the parents. DCF didn't randomly remove the children from the home...so what was the reason given?
     
  3. zddoodah

    zddoodah Well-Known Member

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    How do you know?

    So you're suggesting that these public officials did this simply for shits and giggles? That they just pulled your friends' names out of a hat and said, "tough noogies for them"? Sorry, but that's simply not believable. There obviously was some reason. That you don't know the reason or don't think it's a good reason doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    In relation to your friends' situation?

    You don't. There's nothing for you to fight. Legally, this has nothing to do with you.

    You haven't described anything that happened with sufficient clarity such that anyone could opine about the legality or propriety of it. That being the case, there's nothing anyone here can suggest to your friends except that they should consult with a local attorney. They should contact legal aid and/or seek to borrow money to pay for a lawyer.
     
  4. sandyeggo

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    The best help you can give your friends is to stop posting their legal problems on the internet. This isn't your business.
     
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  5. zddoodah

    zddoodah Well-Known Member

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    What if the friend asked the OP to post this?

    It is if the friend made it the OP's business.
     
  6. Zigner

    Zigner Well-Known Member

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    Then the OP should politely suggest that the friend really ought to ask a professional for assistance.



    The friend can't do that without the OP's consent.
     
  7. zddoodah

    zddoodah Well-Known Member

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    So...bottom line, I thoroughly disagree that there's anything wrong with someone posting on behalf of another.
     
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  8. mightymoose

    mightymoose Moderator

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    No more wrong than a bunch of strangers offering opinions on issues that have nothing to do with them.
     
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  9. Amanda S. K.

    Amanda S. K. Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Not like it any of your business but they ask for my help so I am reaching out to anyone who will help. if all you want to do is criticize people here maybe this it in the site for you.
     
  10. Zigner

    Zigner Well-Known Member

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    The matter that your friend is involved in is HUGE. The best help you could give is not to go out and solicit random strangers for advice. No, the best help you could give your friend is to help your friend get an attorney.

    Really.
     
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  11. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    Tell your friends to request a gubmint supplied and funded attorney to represent their interests.

    Further suggest to your friends to refuse to discuss any aspect of their dilemma with anyone but their SOON TO BE ASSIGNED gubmint attorney.
     
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  12. Amanda S. K.

    Amanda S. K. Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I just need advice not criticism. This is a poor county with crooked cops and government officials. Sorry but they do exist. There has already been investigations done on some of these dcf workers for filing false reports.

     
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  13. Amanda S. K.

    Amanda S. K. Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I will thank you so much.
     
  14. Amanda S. K.

    Amanda S. K. Law Topic Starter New Member

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    We are the poorest county in Florida. No one could afford a lawyer, or else I would not be on here.
     
  15. Zigner

    Zigner Well-Known Member

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    Interestingly, I suspect that there are attorneys who work (and prosper) in your (unnamed) county. Rhetorically, I wonder who pays them...
     
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    That doesn't answer any of the questions I asked, which are important, and, as before, you still haven't described anything that happened with sufficient clarity such that anyone could opine about the legality or propriety of it. However, if no one can afford a lawyer and the public officials are all crooked, then I really have to wonder what you thought posting on an internet message board about the law could accomplish.

    I was thinking the same thing. According to Wikipedia, and depending on whether you're looking at per capita income, median household income or median family income, the "poorest" county in Florida is either Union County, Calhoun County or Hendry County. I found a number of lawyers in all three counties with very little effort.
     
  17. leslie82

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    DCF doesn't just randomly take kids - and if there was no court ordered paperwork your friend shouldn't have let the kids go with them.

    Who are you in this situation? If you are not one of the parents, there's nothing you can do except hire them a lawyer. Otherwise you have no legal stake in it.
     

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