can I ask a settlement from my company for asking me to falsify report

[nena31590]

Im an account manager at a verification call center 200+ employees. My manager , the senior accnt manager, asked me to falsify reports on our performance to a client that was ready to cease doing business with us since our holdtimes and other metrics were lower than their expectations. When I brought this to the ED/President of the company since he was also cc'd on these request to alter the reports, I was told to forget about it since it wasn't my account and I was simply filling in for a co worker while on vacation. Several months passed and December of 2013 I was told that I would taking over new accounts one of them being the one they had asked me to alter and send falsified reports to. I brought this to the head of HR dept, only to be told that " a lie is okay as long as it doesn't hurt anyone or our company". Knowing that the owners of the company , and the head of HR are scientologist I knew that that was some type of teaching in their beliefs. I told her that I was of the christian faith and don't believe in such practices and although not perfect did not wish to partake in those types of business practices. I was asked if a client was ready to leave us would I be able to make such "judgment calls" of lying, in the future which I replied no to. The president and senior account manager confronted me about the issue and kept using phrases such as" do you like working here" . also, my bonuses are Dependant upon the amount of volume and money my clients bring in that week. I had been training next to the senior account manager to take on one of her biggest clients the whole week prior to being confronted by them.My bonuses were about to increase to around $75-$100 every week with this new client. I was repeatedly asked if I would be able to lie to prospective companies that would want to use my new client s call centers and not tell them that they were inmate facilities used as call centers. I stated that if not asked there is no need for me to present that information but if asked and not legally ommited by my client to state that and if directly asked if they were hosting inmate call centers I would have to tell them since it would be misleading and lying to a client. 2 days later that client that was promised to me is now being" held off" and most likely will not be mine. Another piece to this sticky web is that I am a convicted felon. I've been at this job for over 2 yrs since they are felon friendly. Half of the staff have some type of background. After bringing this up my president kept mentioning " how many companies would have taken you with your background, that's something for you to think about". This to me is that he was trying to use my background as if I owed them some loyality and shouldn't keep my mouth shut about their practices. Idle threats . This is very tough for me because I'm up for early termination for my probation and are filing the papers now for good behavior( first time felon). I'm gotten married fornthebfirst time since, had my first child and have literally turned my life around. This business is askijg me to go back to practices that got me into the mess I was before. Can I sue them for anything?

 

[cbg]

No, since you have no damages to sue for.

 

[nena31590]

Can i ask for a settlement or severance package if they don't want me to notify the client about them falsifying their reports. I still work here so I have access and legal right to all of there reports and to contact the client. The client would definitely leave them if they found out and would have every legal right to suebthem for deceptive business practices lying to them to keep there business. I have all the emails saved where they asked to have the numbers changed

 

[nena31590]

I think they should have to pay being the fact that there asking me to use lying as a common business practice I. Order to obtain more clients and because I won't there limiting my ability to gain more clients and get bonuses.

 

[army judge]

We all face choices.
You're worrying about something that MIGHT happen. Why do that? All that will ever cause you is pain, grief, and unneeded agitation.
You haven't had to lie, because no has asked. Heck, if monkeys could serve as call center operators, no one cares, as long as the monkeys perform the desired service at the agreed upon price.

If I were in YOUR SHOES, I'd say, you're right, boss lady or boss man. I'll do the job you hired me to do, and do it better each day.
I appreciate everything you've done or me, just as you appreciate my work.
I was worrying about nothing, because I want to keep improving. You're the boss, boss an or boss lady, I'll just follow your rules.

NEVER worry about religion, politics, or sexual preference on ANY job. Just excuse yourself, f and when that comes up.

Okay, congratulations on improving yourself. I know it's hard after you've been convicted of a felony. You've come a long way, but don't start trying to be perfect, just do the best you can. None of us will ever be perfect, don't let that get in your success trajectory.

Now, go fix this, and stop worrying about WHAT IF, deal with WHAT DID or WHAT IS.

 

[nena31590]

I appreciate your comments and suggestions. But when you research those people at big corporations ( Enron), those big decisions to cheat people of millions, started with choosing to lie,cheat and falsify with the small. I know because what always got me into trouble in the past was compromising small that lead to BIG trouble. In the words of Mel Gibson " not everyone's perfect but there just things you just gotta get right in life" I believe going to work with a clean conscious doing good business is one of them. I believe the law agrees.

 

[nena31590]

And by the way if you read my post in its entirety I have saved emails that PROVE I was asked by both the president and my senior account manager to alter the reports that they send to the client

 

[Betty3]

I still don't see anything to get any type of "settlement" for. You can follow the instructions given you or quit.

 

[army judge]

And by the way if you read my post in its entirety I have saved emails that PROVE I was asked by both the president and my senior account manager to alter the reports that they send to the client

I have no issue with you doing whatever you choose to do.

But, those emails are useless, as in meaningless.

They will prove nothing that will allow you to keep your job.

So, back to basics.

No, they (your employers) don't care. They sent you their message, in several veiled ways.
You can do as they demand, or you can quit.
No, they won't offer you a severance package, but you are free to request one.
You can meet with one of the big bosses, one of the owners, or all of the owners.

No doubt, they'll likely agree to discuss this with you.

But, they'll simply say, nothing, then terminate you.
Or, they MIGHT simply offer you a couple hundred, maybe even a thousand dollars, show you the way out, and wish you well.
I am not accusing you or them of doing anything illegally, improperly, or inappropriately.

I read your post.
I read most posts.
I've been a lawyer and a judge for decades.
I'm still a presiding senior district court judge, semi-retired.
I've seen cases similar to yours.
You, as is any of us, are FREE to sue anyone for any perceived slight, transgression, or tortious act.
You don't need a case, a theory of a case, or any proof to FILE a lawsuit.
Nope, you do NEED that and more to prevail, including DAMAGES.
Even IF you had a case, thought you had been transgressed against, you have NO DAMAGES in this case.
Plus, you have NO proof.
File your law suit, if that is your choice, but from what you've said; you won't prevail.
Lies aren't crimes.
If lies were crimes, ALL of us would be in prison.
A corporation is a legal entity.
It is a person.
If you could prove those lies (personal emails aren't proof), many things must be proven before they could even become evidence, simply holding them up and passing around copies won't ever make them evidence, either.

You are FREE to consult with three or four lawyers, even a thousand lawyers if you wish, in your county about this.
They'll usually meet with you for no charge or obligation the first appointment.
You are free to lay out your gripes, concerns, and issues.
They'll discuss them with you, and allow you to ask several questions.
I suggest people do that.
Its always good to seek several opinions.
Then make an informed decision. They; also will tell you HOW MUCH a lawsuit will cost, and when you need to pay their retainer or the entire fee.

I wish you well, and much continued success.

I always am pleased to see former prison inmates and convicted felons succeed.
I take no pleasure in sending people to prison or jail.
I do take great pleasure and receive immense enjoyment when I sign the order releasing a probationer from his or her promise to the state.
I love to see people get things back on track.

You've gotten yourself off to a great recovery.
Much continued success, smooth sailing, and good luck to you, ma'am.

 

[army judge]

And by the way if you read my post in its entirety I have saved emails that PROVE I was asked by both the president and my senior account manager to alter the reports that they send to the client

I have no issue with you doing whatever you choose to do.

But, those emails are useless, as in meaningless.

They will prove nothing that will allow you to keep your job.

So, back to basics.

No, they (your employers) don't care. They sent you their message, in several veiled ways.
You can do as they demand, or you can quit.
No, they won't offer you a severance package, but you are free to request one.
You can meet with one of the big bosses, one of the owners, or all of the owners.

No doubt, they'll likely agree to discuss this with you.

But, they'll simply say, nothing, then terminate you.
Or, they MIGHT simply offer you a couple hundred, maybe even a thousand dollars, show you the way out, and wish you well.
I am not accusing you or them of doing anything illegally, improperly, or inappropriately.

I read your post.
I read most posts.
I've been a lawyer and a judge for decades.
I'm still a presiding senior district court judge, semi-retired.
I've seen cases similar to yours.
You, as is any of us, are FREE to sue anyone for any perceived slight, transgression, or tortious act.
You don't need a case, a theory of a case, or any proof to FILE a lawsuit.
Nope, you do NEED that and more to prevail, including DAMAGES.
Even IF you had a case, thought you had been transgressed against, you have NO DAMAGES in this case.
Plus, you have NO proof.
File your law suit, if that is your choice, but from what you've said; you won't prevail.
Lies aren't crimes.
If lies were crimes, ALL of us would be in prison.
A corporation is a legal entity.
It is a person.
If you could prove those lies (personal emails aren't proof), many things must be proven before they could even become evidence, simply holding them up and passing around copies won't ever make them evidence, either.

You are FREE to consult with three or four lawyers in your county about this.
They'll usually meet with you for no charge or obligation the first appointment.
You are free to lay out your gripes, concerns, and issues.
They'll discuss them with you, and allow you ask questions.
I suggest people do that.
Its always good to seek several opinions.
Then make an informed decision. They; also tell you HOW MUCH a lawsuit will cost, and when you need to pay.



So, I wish you well, and much continued success.

I always love to see former prison inmates and convicted felons succeed.
I take no pleasure in sending people to prison or jail.
I do take great pleasure and receive immense enjoyment when I sign the order releasing a probationer from his promise to the state.
I love to see people get things back on track.

You've gotten yourself off to a great recovery.
Much continued success and luck to you, ma'am.

 

[ElleMD]

Can i ask for a settlement or severance package if they don't want me to notify the client about them falsifying their reports. I still work here so I have access and legal right to all of there reports and to contact the client. The client would definitely leave them if they found out and would have every legal right to suebthem for deceptive business practices lying to them to keep there business. I have all the emails saved where they asked to have the numbers changed

What your employer did is devious but not outright illegal. No law was broken. Numbers aside, if the client is happy with the job that is being done, they will keep the contract going. If they are not, they will find another vendor. You have no way of knowing what the client company will do or would do as you are not in their shoes and you are not privvy to their business decisions. You have no proof that the altered numbers or knowing the background of the employees would make a bit of difference.

What you are proposing to do is illegal. "Pay me or I will turn records over to the client" is extortion and very much illegal. The parole board is going to frown on that heavily. That whole two wrongs don't make a right principle. The fact that small trasgressions are a slippery slope for you is frankly not your employer's problem. If you can not do as asked to keep a client and keep them happy, then they absolutely can remove you from that account. Why wouldn't they? You outright told them you would not perform the job they hired you to perform. Blaming their religion is a very bad move. This has nothing to do with anyone's religion. If you are unhappy with the duties of your job, it is your right to look for employment elsewhere. I would not expect severance for voluntarily leaving.