JamesDean123
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- Jurisdiction
- California
My friend's "Lady"/Mother of his newborn has serious issues. Issues that could bring CPS into her life. She calls my friend and spends hours calling him names, telling him he's worthless etc.. She has two other children who are deathly afraid of her, so they will parrot anything she tells them to say. She's also smart enough to not put anything that will incriminate her on the phone, insisting that every time she calls my friend/business partner, he must talk to her outside/away from other people.
While recording phone calls without both party's consent is illegal, I wonder if this can be a possible loophole. As the business owners, we have a security camera system with both audio/video. We have signs up everywhere stating that audio and video is being recorded on the premises. She is aware that we have audio/video recording on our cameras, and that when she's calling him, he is at work.
If he were to talk to her on speaker phone under one of these cameras, since she knows that our cameras record audio, can we get away with recording that audio and using it from the security cameras without informing her that the conversation is being recorded?
We want to use this audio to prove that she is an unfit mother and help him to get custody of his child. She's mentally abusive to the children she has, wants him to threaten them with physical harm as a method of punishment, while she laughs at them because they are getting in trouble, intentionally trying to demean them and make them feel worthless. One of her children is quite obviously high functioning autistic, but she refuses to get help for him, stating he's fine, when he's older and still wets the bed and has other habits that are not of a normal child. She also says that she can't properly take care of her son because he needs a man to raise him, and that because she "has a vagina", she needs my friend to step up and father her child (the one that is not his, and that needs help).
While recording phone calls without both party's consent is illegal, I wonder if this can be a possible loophole. As the business owners, we have a security camera system with both audio/video. We have signs up everywhere stating that audio and video is being recorded on the premises. She is aware that we have audio/video recording on our cameras, and that when she's calling him, he is at work.
If he were to talk to her on speaker phone under one of these cameras, since she knows that our cameras record audio, can we get away with recording that audio and using it from the security cameras without informing her that the conversation is being recorded?
We want to use this audio to prove that she is an unfit mother and help him to get custody of his child. She's mentally abusive to the children she has, wants him to threaten them with physical harm as a method of punishment, while she laughs at them because they are getting in trouble, intentionally trying to demean them and make them feel worthless. One of her children is quite obviously high functioning autistic, but she refuses to get help for him, stating he's fine, when he's older and still wets the bed and has other habits that are not of a normal child. She also says that she can't properly take care of her son because he needs a man to raise him, and that because she "has a vagina", she needs my friend to step up and father her child (the one that is not his, and that needs help).