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SSN was stolen, I have no ID

Discussion in 'Social Security, Disability & Health' started by CabbagePatch3, Jan 31, 2021.

  1. CabbagePatch3

    CabbagePatch3 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I have no state ID (and I never have had a driver's license) nor do I have a Social Security card. I need one to get the other, so I'm feeling a bit stuck. How do I go about obtaining both?
     
  2. Tax Counsel

    Tax Counsel Well-Known Member

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    Well, what do you have? Do you have your birth certificate? A passport? Any kind of government issued ID (military ID, etc)? Do you have a SSN (even though you don't have the SS card)?
     
  3. CabbagePatch3

    CabbagePatch3 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    I do have a birth certificate, yes. I don't have any photo ID of any sort. I have the number memorised.
     
  4. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    These days you'll need far more than a birth certificate to get ANY form of valid state issued ID or a Passport issued by the US Government.

    If you were born in this country, held (or hold) a valid state issued drivers license, a thumbprint or fingerprint exists somewhere.

    If you attended any US high school or college, a picture ID exists.

    So, let's try this.

    In what year were you born?

    In what state, city, county or parish were you born?

    What year did you graduate high school or drop out of same?

    Have you attended any US college?

    Have you served in the US military?
    Have you ever applied for an Illinois issued "FOID" card?

    Have you applied to serve in the US military?

    Have you ever been arrested in any US state or territory, or by federal authorities?

    Have you ever received a traffic citation or citation for misdemeanor offense?

    Where? In what year?

    If you're an adult living in the US legally, you'll be able to answer YES to at least three of the above questions, otherwise, I suggest you refrain from doing anything further less you'll be discovered.

    It might be in your best interests to remain QUIETLY concealed in the shadows lest you will end up exposing yourself to some agency of law enforcement or immigration.
     
  5. flyingron

    flyingron Well-Known Member

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    I believe you can get a non-realID version of an Illinois state ID with just your birth certificate (and possibly some additional residence documents that you do have). Once you have the state ID, you can go the SSA with that and a birth certificate and get a real social security card. You can then go back and turn your state ID into a real ID.

    If that doesn't work, then yes, you'll need to scrape together enough other identity information you can historically and make an appointment at the SSA to resolve this.
     
  6. Michael Wechsler

    Michael Wechsler Administrator Staff Member

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    adjusterjack Super Moderator

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    You should be able to get a state ID card with just that. Try your local Motor Vehicle office.

    Once you have a state ID you can order a card online at the SSA website.
     
  8. Michael Wechsler

    Michael Wechsler Administrator Staff Member

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    flyingron Well-Known Member

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    That's for a REAL ID compliant ID. I believe Illinois will still issue a non-REAL ID compliant license/id.
     
  10. Michael Wechsler

    Michael Wechsler Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes, that's true. At this point I've been thinking Real ID only given how New York City has been aggressively marketing them - I live within reasonably close proximity to 3 airports!
     
  11. flyingron

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    Yeah, well NY is in a funny state as well since they're in a pissing match with DHS right now, DHS won't let New Yorkers into the trust traveller system because of the green light drivers license issue.

    But the non-REAL ID case might allow him to boot himself into getting a physical social security card. If not, as I said, he'll need to bring his birth certificate and every shred of evidence that he is who he says he is to the SSA and throw himself on their mercy.

    Oddly, DHS doesn't seem to be concerned about Real ID. My license is an old style and I went through my Global Entry interview and was issued with the it.
     
  12. Michael Wechsler

    Michael Wechsler Administrator Staff Member

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    While it's off-topic here, that is very true. Our local politicians (such as our Mayor, Bill de Blasio and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) have openly waged campaigns against the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and it's why I raised the issue of state-based requirements.

    Illinois does have a website and phone number for help obtaining an Illinois state identification card. It may have limited uses but, unless you're flying, it can probably be of use within the state and important to have.

    General Information: Public Info Line: 800-252-8980; 800-252-2904

    Illinois Driver's License and State ID Card Information

    Driver's License pplicationTemporary Driver's License/Commercial Driver's License/State ID Card/Commercial Learner's PermitRenewalOut-of-State RenewalDuplicate/CorrectedName ChangeGender ChangeLost/Found/StolenMilitary DutyMotorcycle LicenseSocial Security Online VerificationState ID Card/ State ID Card Online RenewalRestricted Local Drivers LicenseState ID Card for the HomelessTemporary Visitor Driver's LicenseVeteran DesignationDeceased Notification
     
  13. flyingron

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    Well as I stated, the SSA's normal policy for replacement of a social security card requires a birth certificate and some photo ID (doesn't need to be realID). If he can get IlDot to give him a unreal ID, he can then get just about anything else once he gets his physical SS card. He can even go back and get the realID version.
     
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    army judge Super Moderator

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    LOL LMFAO

    Today's lingo would make many of our 17th, 18th, and 19th century ancestors cackle and guffaw.

    I love the last few years of my life a lot more than the first few.

    These are very entertaining times in which we attempt to exist.
     

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