Speeding tickets from NYC cameras that are near 10 mph or above speed limit

notveryrich

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I read that speeding tickets generated from New York City cameras only occur when a vehicle is clocked at traveling more than 10 miles per hour above the speed limit. This is explained that if you're traveling at 35mph in a 25mph zone, the camera will not fire and generate a speeding ticket. But if you are traveling at 36mph, the speed camera will take a photo and generate a speeding ticket. Is this some type of regulation put in place? I've seen claims but not the source.

I'm also concerned because these cameras were just put up in our area and I've found that New York City does many things poorly and I don't trust them. (I am typing another ticket problem too.) Has anyone heard of tickets being generated at 10mph or less and is there a defense if a speeding ticket is issued for going 30mph in a 25mph zone that NYC was not allowed (perhaps by regulation) to have these cameras used?
 
I read that speeding tickets generated from New York City cameras only occur when a vehicle is clocked at traveling more than 10 miles per hour above the speed limit.

Read where?


This is explained

Explained by whom?


Is this some type of regulation put in place?

I doubt it, but it's impossible to know without knowing what you read.


is there a defense if a speeding ticket is issued for going 30mph in a 25mph zone that NYC was not allowed (perhaps by regulation) to have these cameras used?

I'm not really sure what this means, but 30 in a 25 is speeding.
 
I read that speeding tickets generated from New York City cameras only occur when a vehicle is clocked at traveling more than 10 miles per hour above the speed limit.

You and other clever human beings would be smart to avoid receiving a speeding citation via camera by simply traveling 10 to 15 MPH UNDER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

AUTHOR'S ADMISSION: I routinely set my vehicle anywhere from 10 to 15 MPH UNDER THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT, thereby OBEYING traffic laws and AVOIDING traffic citations altogether!!!



Speed cameras are placed in school zones to photograph speeding vehicles. They operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

You can report a speed camera that is damaged or not working properly.


The Department of Transportation will respond to your request within 12 weeks.



Online

Contact the Department of Transportation.

By Mail

Mail your request to:

Department of Transportation Commissioner
55 Water Street, 9th Floor
New York, NY 10041


If your car is caught speeding by a speed camera, you will be sent a Notice of Liability (NOL) in about 14 days. The fine is $50.

Learn more about the speed camera program.
 
Kinda challenging in a 20 mph zone.

Receiving a traffic citation can be AVOIDED, without spending any additional pennies.

Obey their laws, doing otherwise only results in GIVING the overseers the ability to STEAL your hard earned money.

Obeying their laws, saves you lotsa moola.

Disobeying their laws, allows the POTENTATES, PRINCES, PRINCESSES, and POTENT PEEPULLS to steal lotsa YOUR MOOLA.

Personally, I like to keep my moola.
 
Kinda challenging in a 20 mph zone.

But other than that, agree.

I do it everyday, it has never failed me.

As far as a 20 Or 25MPH speed limit, set your cruise control to 20 MPH, even 15 MPH, IF YOU WANNA BE EXTRA CAREFUL, you'll not be exceeding their posted speed limit. Bully for you, you've succeeded in keeping the GUBMINT from fleecing you!!!
 
Being in NYC I can understand the sentiment and dynamics. Even on our major roadways the maximum speed was lowered to just 25mph - so an 8 lane boulevard has the same speed limit as a 1 lane side street. Making sure you're under the speed limit (20mph?) can feel glacial, especially if you're watching bicycles and scooters passing you in the bike lane. This issue and especially disappearing parking spaces have created a significant challenge for timely and effect deliveries. That said, let's take a look.

As to the origin of the claim of NYC speed cameras registering speeds in excess of 10 mph above the speed limit, it's on the NYC.gov Vision Zero Program website.

New York City's speed camera program serves to deter drivers from exceeding the speed limit by more than ten miles per hour, which helps prevents serious crashes from occurring.

This was a hotly disputed law, regulation and initiative implemented by New York City's former mayor, Bill de Blasio. The rationale comes from the same source:

The faster a vehicle is moving, the harder it is for the driver of that vehicle to avoid a crash. And the faster a vehicle is moving when a crash occurs, the more damage is caused by the impact. Even a small difference in vehicle speed makes a big impact in terms of safety – a pedestrian who is struck by a vehicle travelling at 30 MPH is twice as likely to be killed as a pedestrian struck by a vehicle travelling at 25 MPH.

It is an interesting argument pointing to the admissibility of the evidence against the driver as to the vehicle's speed, in addition to the camera calibration. But I've also noticed this further down the same Vision Zero information FAQ.

What if a ticket is issued erroneously?
DOT takes a number of steps in order to avoid erroneously issuing Notices of Liability. The camera equipment is evaluated daily, so that DOT can be sure the radar is collecting precise and accurate measurements. In addition, motorists do not receive a ticket unless they exceed the speed limit by more than ten miles per hour. The technology used by the system distinguishes between speeding vehicles and nearby vehicles, and will not issue a ticket if it is unclear which vehicle is exceeding the speed limit by more than ten miles per hour. The specially trained New York City Department of Transportation staff who review speed camera violations will also reject violations unless they know without a doubt exactly which vehicle was speeding.

I can't predict what you'll hear in court from a DMV Administrative Law Judge. But it may be a reasonable defense to assert that the summons / ticket should not have been issued at all and that (1) an assumption may be made that the actual rate of speed of the vehicle is unclear, and (2) the technology malfunctioned in issuing a ticket below the stated cut off point that provides assurance of rate of speed. If you encounter a speeding ticket for 10 mph or less above the speed limit, you may want to first contact the Traffic Violations Bureau and see what they have to say. Good luck with your defense - and drive slowly and carefully.
 

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