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Solicitation of minor / dating app scam ?? Child Abuse, Molestation, Porn

Discussion in 'Criminal Charges' started by Flyguy1979, Apr 12, 2018.

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  1. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Back in the beginning of March, I matched with another member on a dating app who had a profile age of 19. After a brief hello and some small talk, he gave me his number and said to text him. He was from Connecticut, the number was out of Maine. His profile was listed as him being from California. We started to text small talk, and he told me he was moving to Minnesota soon due to his dad being in the military and travelling. We talked about possibly meeting for a dinner date, and he then disclosed to me that he was 17 years old, not 19. I told him that due to his age I was not interested in meeting or taking it any farther than small talk. He then sent me a nude picture of his back side, which I did not ask for. I told him again I am not interested, and to refrain from sending any pictures of that nature. He seemed to be a little irritated, and after a very short time stopped messaging me. I deleted the number and went about my business. Few days later, he texted hello. I responded, we made small talk, and he then sent another picture unsolicited, similar to that above. I once again told him to STOP sending pictures, and that I am not interested. I again deleted the number. Few weeks later, he texts hello, I respond, but nothing more is said.

    Fast forward a little over a month later ( few days ago ). I receive a text from the same number, with the following : " Mr. H****** this is Anthony's father. I've been on the phone with the State Attorney General's Office after my son attempted suicide when being confronted about sending you nude photos. I need you to contact me ASAP or I'm going to have a warrant issued for your arrest".


    I text him back, and he asked that I call him in 5 minutes on that number. I call him, he doesn't answer but then calls back. I listened as he talked, and he made the following points :

    1. That his son is in the hospital after attempting suicide
    2. I am guilty of solicitation of a minor, even though our talks were not sexual of nature
    3. I am old enough to be his father, and it is not looking good for me and will not look good in a trial
    4. Even though I told him to refrain from sending nude pictures, the fact that I did not block him is solicitation
    5. That he has given his statement to the police, and they referred him to social services/child protective services

    I let him finish, and then explained to him that again our talks were never sexual, I never asked for pictures, and I instantly told his son to refrain from sending anything of that nature. I also explained to him that if he reads the messages, he will see clearly that I told the son I was not interested due to his age, and maybe in the future after he is over 18 we could talk.

    The father then stated again that this was still solicitation, and the situation is not good. We talked for a bit, and then his tone changed and he became more unsure. He told me he could not run the hospital bills through his military insurance, and he is going to have bills for counseling as well. He told him he was going to talk to his wife, and decide how to proceed. He told me he doesn't think he is going to pursue it, but he needs to talk to his wife, and she might suggest that I make a donation to a child abuse charity as opposed to pressing charges and putting the son through that process.

    He closed the conversation in saying that he will talk to his wife, and I will probably hear back from him within a few days. He also said if I did not hear from him in a week or two, then to forget it and that nothing was going to happen.


    So that is where I stand right now. I researched online, and found numerous examples and reports of scams very similar to this, from all different dating apps. I found many variations of the scam, some of which involve a fake police officer asking for money via western union, or the accuser asking for donations in exchange for silence. If anyone here google searches it, you will find many examples that sound very close to what happened.

    I once again want to stress, I did what I thought was the right thing and expressed my dis-interest after learning he was 17. I never asked for pics, never saved any pics, and we never had anything near that of a sexual discussion.


    Few questions:

    What is everyone's opinion on this ? Have I committed a crime based on what you've read ?

    This man knew my first and last name, which is what worried me and made me think it might be legit

    Also, I am a firefighter/medic, and my app profile pic is me in uniform with a visible badge. If he was a scammer, I would think he would see that and move along ( another reason I think it could be legit)

    How can I find out if there is in fact a warrant for my arrest?

    Should I get an attorney on retainer, and have him contact this guy and try to get more info ?

    Any suggestions / answers are appreciated !
     
  2. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    I suggest you STOP frequenting ALL of those online sites.

    I also suggest you STOP discussing this matter.

    If the police do call, viewing this video will instruct you what NOT to do or say:



    From this point forward speak of this incident to no one, except YOUR attorney.

    Again, never visit any of those sites for the rest of the days you draw a breath on this planet!!!!

    It was probably a SCAM, but even if it is a scam, you might still be at risk.

    It might be best to destroy any devices that you used to access any of those sordid sites, buying new ones might be much cheaper than a prison term or a long legal battle.

    You might also investigate one of the services tat claim to protect your identity and holdings!
     
  3. mightymoose

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    You are getting scammed.
    Ignore any further attempts to contact you. Do not reply for any reason.
     
  4. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Thanks ArmyJudge, definitely good advice , nothing but bad experiences on those sites usually


    Moose.....I am thinking that BUT.......the guy knew my first and last name. He also called from a number from Verizon, that I can text and call ( not spoofed) ..... who would pull a scam and attempt to extort money with a mainline carrier registered to them ?
     
  5. cynthiag

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    Your story is virtually identical to one we had on here not too long ago, only in that one the "underage victim" was female. And yes, it is a scam, and from the sounds of it, it's becoming increasingly common.
     
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  6. Flyguy1979

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    Yep, and like I said before if you do a Google search you can read tons of stories very similar ....... but as mentioned, the guy knew my first and last name .... that is what caught my attention mainly ..... Also the timeframe on mine was different, in the other ones the so-called father calls the same day, mine was almost a month later.....So there are similarities but a few things about this one that made me wonder
     
  7. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    Let it go, force yourself to FORGET everything about the incident and whatever goes on when someone uses those kinds of sites.

    You're a public agency employee, mate.

    If rumors of this got out, imagine what the media would do to you.

    The ServPro slogan:


    SERVPRO "Like it never even happened."


    SERVPRO Like it never even happened.
     
  8. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    ArmyJudge , I understand what you are saying, but it is a dating site..... I don’t see anything wrong with being a member of a dating site as millions of people are, including many of the same public employees that I work with. And, I’m sure this scenario could have happened to anyone. I don’t know what the media could say or do.....I’ve done nothing wrong, and did what any law abiding person would do......ceased communication with him
     
  9. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    I am NOT the boss of you, buddy.

    You're a free, male citizen, and if you do break laws, none of my business.

    Use those sites 72 hours each day, 5,000,000 hours each week, that's your call.

    Best of luck with the rest of your life.
     
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    We talked about possibly meeting for a dinner date, and he then disclosed to me that he was 17 years old, not 19. I told him that due to his age I was not interested in meeting or taking it any farther than small talk. He then sent me a nude picture of his back side, which I did not ask for. I told him again I am not interested, and to refrain from sending any pictures of that nature. He seemed to be a little irritated, and after a very short time stopped messaging me. I deleted the number and went about my business. Few days later, he texted hello. I responded, we made small talk, and he then sent another picture unsolicited, similar to that above. I once again told him to STOP sending pictures, and that I am not interested. I again deleted the number. Few weeks later, he texts hello, I respond, but nothing more is said.


    Bottom line is simple...... You were told they were UNDERAGE... Yet you continued talking to them. Even after they sent nude photo's..... You should have cut ties the second you KNEW they were underage. Yet by your own admission continued talking to them.

    Your GUILTY as heck.... You should seek a professional to talk with.
     
  11. mightymoose

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    As the situation was described above, it does not appear that there was any violation of law, regardless of the continued conversation. It is not the conversation itself but the content of it that matters. There does not appear to be any solicitation or enticement of a minor. Receiving an unsolicited photo of someone alleged to be under 18 is not a crime. It is not even known if the other party was a minor..
    Hopefully the photos were not kept.
     
  12. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    No, when I got them I deleted right away. Also more has developed as of last night ...... the father re-contacted me and said he discussed it with his wife, and requested I pay $4,125 to either them or a charity of their choosing..... to cover the cost of medical bills and counseling
     
  13. mightymoose

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    Hopefully you were smart enough to not engage in that conversation.
    Block the number.
    Cease contact.
    Do not respond.
    Forget about it.
    How would a donation to a charity of their choice pay the bills? Surely it would be a bogus organization and they would receive the funds. Don't fall for it. You have no liability here whatsoever, and no evidence the kid even exists.
    Don't seek answers. Ignore it.

    As the old phrase says- A fool and his money are soon parted.
     
  14. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    No I did not respond , he sent the text with that request, I ignored
     
  15. army judge

    army judge Super Moderator

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    More than likely, the catfish is playing another role, his pappy.
     
  16. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    No no I talked to him on the phone the first time , definitely an older guy .... deep southern accent, sounded a little intoxicated possibly
     
  17. army judge

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    Yeah, okay........
     
  18. Flyguy1979

    Flyguy1979 Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Well let’s say he pulled it off well if he wasn’t
     
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    I suspect that this is the same troll who is posting chat room stories on several legal sites under different names and slightly different stories. But the similarity is that every time somebody responds he adds another question or comment and the thread gets bloated.

    Thread locked.
     
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    It could be one Looney with VPN, or a cadre of dozens of loonies.
     

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