mightymoose
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I was debating this with a supervisor today, and since I am not the supervisor I figure I am probably wrong, but I have since found that his reasoning is also wrong, although he may ultimately still be right.
The topic was whether at the time of arrest charges against a suspect could be separated into different cases. Certain things naturally go with each other and it would make no sense to separate them, however our dispute was focused more around drugs. For instance, if a suspect were arrested for burglary, domestic violence, or just about anything that is NOT drug related, and in the course of that arrest and investigation the suspect was found to be under the influence, can the arresting officer draw two separate case numbers and submit the burglary (or other) offense to the District Attorney separately from the charge of being under the influence? Or, must all charges be lumped together into the same case for a single arrest?
The question arose because of how our District Attorney handles cases for being under the influence. Generally, the case gets rejected immediately upon receipt because it takes a few weeks to get lab results back on blood/urine samples. After the lab results come in the DA will then file the charge.
The problem is here- if I have my burglary and drug charge on the same case and my suspect does not waive time, then we may not have our lab results in time and will have to dismiss the charge. Also, if the suspect is held and the DA sends the case back pending the lab results, my suspect might get released.
However, if I were to send the two charges to the DA independently then one could proceed without the other. The drug charge is totally separate from the other charge even if the suspect might try to use a defense of being high. Even if the drug charge was not submitted at all then the suspect would still make that argument in defense.
Since these would really be two separate offenses, even if the suspect was high at the time of the crime, is it allowable to separate them from the get-go in order to allow for the one to proceed while waiting for my lab results on the other? In most cases one would catch up to the other and would likely get combined, but keeping them separate would allow for one case to be filed and my suspect to be held while the other is pending.
That is it in a nutshell. The supervisor says no- they must go together. In fact he argues that the drug offense should not be included so as to not provide the suspect with a defense... but I believe they would still use that defense anyway. He also argued that the Harvey Waiver is in play (People v. Harvey (1979) 25 Cal.3d 754, 758), saying that if one case was decided before the other then the second one would be unable to proceed since the arrest occurred at the same time as the matter in the first case... a sort of double jeopardy argument. I don't buy it.
The drug defense would be made with or without the additional charges, so I may as well add it, and it is a lousy excuse anyway. I was unfamiliar with Harvey and looked it up... I see that it has more to do with charges being dismissed and not allowing them to be considered in sentencing, which really doesn't fit the scenario... however he may have simply been citing the wrong case if he had something else on his mind. It seems to me that one case could easily proceed without the other- though for the sake of simplicity they would certainly be combined eventually. The whole point is to separate the charges to allow the DA to file charges on one case while pending the other so that my suspect doesn't walk on a lame technicality... so long as the charges are unrelated and not some kind of included offense of the other.
Am I wrong to think that a charge of being under the influence is totally separate from a burglary/assault/stolen vehicle/whatever, even if the suspect was high at the time of the crime and wants to use that as a lousy defense? Surely he was high beforehand, and well after....
I'm sure my best answer will come from my DA's office, but I can't reach them at 3am.
The topic was whether at the time of arrest charges against a suspect could be separated into different cases. Certain things naturally go with each other and it would make no sense to separate them, however our dispute was focused more around drugs. For instance, if a suspect were arrested for burglary, domestic violence, or just about anything that is NOT drug related, and in the course of that arrest and investigation the suspect was found to be under the influence, can the arresting officer draw two separate case numbers and submit the burglary (or other) offense to the District Attorney separately from the charge of being under the influence? Or, must all charges be lumped together into the same case for a single arrest?
The question arose because of how our District Attorney handles cases for being under the influence. Generally, the case gets rejected immediately upon receipt because it takes a few weeks to get lab results back on blood/urine samples. After the lab results come in the DA will then file the charge.
The problem is here- if I have my burglary and drug charge on the same case and my suspect does not waive time, then we may not have our lab results in time and will have to dismiss the charge. Also, if the suspect is held and the DA sends the case back pending the lab results, my suspect might get released.
However, if I were to send the two charges to the DA independently then one could proceed without the other. The drug charge is totally separate from the other charge even if the suspect might try to use a defense of being high. Even if the drug charge was not submitted at all then the suspect would still make that argument in defense.
Since these would really be two separate offenses, even if the suspect was high at the time of the crime, is it allowable to separate them from the get-go in order to allow for the one to proceed while waiting for my lab results on the other? In most cases one would catch up to the other and would likely get combined, but keeping them separate would allow for one case to be filed and my suspect to be held while the other is pending.
That is it in a nutshell. The supervisor says no- they must go together. In fact he argues that the drug offense should not be included so as to not provide the suspect with a defense... but I believe they would still use that defense anyway. He also argued that the Harvey Waiver is in play (People v. Harvey (1979) 25 Cal.3d 754, 758), saying that if one case was decided before the other then the second one would be unable to proceed since the arrest occurred at the same time as the matter in the first case... a sort of double jeopardy argument. I don't buy it.
The drug defense would be made with or without the additional charges, so I may as well add it, and it is a lousy excuse anyway. I was unfamiliar with Harvey and looked it up... I see that it has more to do with charges being dismissed and not allowing them to be considered in sentencing, which really doesn't fit the scenario... however he may have simply been citing the wrong case if he had something else on his mind. It seems to me that one case could easily proceed without the other- though for the sake of simplicity they would certainly be combined eventually. The whole point is to separate the charges to allow the DA to file charges on one case while pending the other so that my suspect doesn't walk on a lame technicality... so long as the charges are unrelated and not some kind of included offense of the other.
Am I wrong to think that a charge of being under the influence is totally separate from a burglary/assault/stolen vehicle/whatever, even if the suspect was high at the time of the crime and wants to use that as a lousy defense? Surely he was high beforehand, and well after....
I'm sure my best answer will come from my DA's office, but I can't reach them at 3am.
