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How much time would you get for furnishing meth to a minor while on felony probation in the state of california?
Thank you for your input, here are some circumstances that also apply, if the minor had informed the person furnishing the meth with false information about age and identity, including stating that they were 19 and having a fake i.d. would there be any leeway for the defendant?
Now if you could PROVE (or just muddy the waters with) the fact that the "minor" was "snitching" others out, maybe, just maybe.
The person furnishing the meth was not a drug dealer, and the incident was not under the circumstances of a drug deal. We're talking about a room full of users "hanging out", two of said persons had sex with the minor while under the impression she was 19 while a third party supplied her with meth; the minor then cries rape a month later and all activities that night come into play. I for one know for a fact no rape took place, but regardless of the fact that the minor was consenting she was still a minor. I was just wondering if there was any forgiveness in the law considering the fact that the minor obviousy lied.
What flabbergasts me is that this girl specifically asked for a ride crossing 2 cities for the sole purpose of intercourse with one person, consents to his friend as well, smokes meth; then when she brags to her parents about her orgy in a fit of rage, backtracks and cries rape a month after all of this took place.
Regardless thats not relevant; just venting I guess.
How much time would you get for furnishing meth to a minor while on felony probation in the state of california?
I for one know for a fact no rape took place, but regardless of the fact that the minor was consenting she was still a minor. I was just wondering if there was any forgiveness in the law considering the fact that the minor obviousy lied.
This too is something the law is going to disagree with you on. It was a drug deal. Unless you want to characterize it as giving her drugs so it would make it easier to rape her? Any time one gives drugs to another it is distribution. If you do it free you are still distributing. It is not going to make a hill of beans worth of difference to the Jury that you were just hanging out.The person furnishing the meth was not a drug dealer, and the incident was not under the circumstances of a drug deal.
The answer my friend, is NOT ENOUGH.
You know I didn't read the rest of the answers before mine but I just can't find any sympathy for this situation. Army, who is in Defense lawyer mode would still be trashing you if you didn't do drugs with her and had "consensual" sex with her. But given a question in a legal defense posture he forgets all that bellowing and starts defending you. That's a good lawyer for you.
But let me tell you, if it were my daughter you treated in that way, for any reason, I wouldn't have any sympathy. She is someone's daughter and you didn't care about her at all. You got what you could out of her and gave her poison. I'm sure you are going to say you didn't ask for my moral opinion. Well I have bad news for you: The Jury is going to judge you morally too.
Take Army's advice and keep your mouth shut. Get the best lawyer you can afford and pray God gives you and that poor girl another chance, before you run into a father like Army or myself who won't give you that chance.
Meth is a horrible thing. Get clean. Good luck.
You do understand that a rape did take place. She was a minor, she had no right to consent to sex. She was being given drugs. The only thing that you say didn't happen is that she didn't announce she was underage. Further, the whole idea that a room full of meth heads asked her to produce an ID which turned out to be fake will not impress a judge or a jury. Any attempt to blame the girl is going to backfire in your face.
How old is the "minor" alleged to have been when this event didn't happen?
The person furnishing the meth was not a drug dealer, and the incident was not under the circumstances of a drug deal. We're talking about a room full of users "hanging out", two of said persons had sex with the minor while under the impression she was 19 while a third party supplied her with meth; the minor then cries rape a month later and all activities that night come into play. I for one know for a fact no rape took place, but regardless of the fact that the minor was consenting she was still a minor. I was just wondering if there was any forgiveness in the law considering the fact that the minor obviousy lied.
What flabbergasts me is that this girl specifically asked for a ride crossing 2 cities for the sole purpose of intercourse with one person, consents to his friend as well, smokes meth; then when she brags to her parents about her orgy in a fit of rage, backtracks and cries rape a month after all of this took place.
Regardless thats not relevant; just venting I guess.
First off, all three defendants are currently in jail, I just happen to be a close friend of all three of these young men. As for the moral stance, from what I heard from the only witness, who happens to be female, no rape took place; the minor did consent [by moral standards not legal ones] to sex with both parties, and the meth provided was also asked for not pushed upon her. As for your hypothetical daughters, jharris, just from your post I would assume that none of the children you raised would consent to sex with two men in one night and voluntary meth use.
This allegedly happened OVER a month ago.
Rape, what rape?
No rape kit was used.
No one was taken to the hospital and tested.
She cried rape, but other than her cries, what proof is there?
Did one of these dummies admit to having sex with the kid?
If they admitted to mistakenly thinking she was 19 and said they had sex with her, they F*CKED themselves! :no:
Never speak to the police, other than to give them your name, address, and date of birth.
Then, ask for a lawyer!
If the dummies said they "gave" her meth, they helped convict themselves.
Had none of these idiots said anything to the police, none of this could have been proven.
Tell me these idiots didn't admit to doing ANY of the aforementioned things, please tell they clammed up!!!!
No wonder some defense lawyers get ulcers and need mental health counseling. :dunno:
I wish that was the truth, 2 have admited to consensual sex [you cant even imagine the frustration im feeling] one admitted to the meth, but he is also being charged with sex crimes because of her claims but the chances of that are little to none because while she was having sex with the first guy the defendant accused of furnishing stole her phone and left the house where all of this took place. Apparently after the furnisher left she had sex with the second defendant.
Her statement says that she had sex with one consensually and after the fact the other 2 raped her repeatedly throughout the night, the problem with that is one of the men she claims raped her after she had consensual sex is actually guy she knew who she specifically came down to have sex with from jump. it just so happens that shes white, she admits to consensual sex with the white guy then claims the two black guys of raping her. Whats ironic is the man she crossed 2 cities to have sex with is one of the black males.
Okay, I'm addressing this from the perspective of a defense lawyer.
First of all, never tell your lawyer you did anything.
I hope these dummies aren't spouting this crap.
They should be saying >>>HINT-HINT-HINT<<< they were NEVER in that room.
Where ever that room may have been!
There was no sex, agreed upon or not.
A month after the fact, how could any of this be proven?
It couldn't, unless you're a dummy and admit to having sex with someone who's trying to F*CK you!
There were no drugs.
What drugs?
We don't do drugs.
Why are you accusing us of doing drugs?
By the way, what girl?
We may have seen that girl, but we never had sex with that girl.
Besides, she's a kid.
We're adults, and we don't hang out with kids!
Are you getting it?
Help "the dummies" get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trust I get it all perfectly, but they scared them with claims of "dna proof"[a month later yeah sure], so they blabbed. what i want to know is if there is a way to save the whole case. If they gave guilty statements, are they admissable in court if they dont take the stand.
oh and from what i hear from the defendants they were never read miranda rights, but someone said that doesnt matter if your on probatuon?
please clarify.
thank you so much for your time.