apollodawson
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- North Carolina
Hi. This's my first time here.
Wondering if any of this constitutes fraud in a private party used car sale ad? I'm in NC and recently discovered the antique car I bought has unexpected rust issues. It was advertised online from WA State, and I bought it after having a professional inspection.
Was the seller's ad fraudulent in stating he "started a no-expense spared restoration in 2014", while writing his 2020 advertisement? He made no statement of when the restoration was completed. But sometime before final painting circa 2016 he decided to skip over exploration for, and repair of any rust found. This was admittedly due to cost, and he deflects blame to the flawed "suggestion" by the restorer that rust was unlikely. Rust is widely, if not almost universally known to be the #1 nemesis of this vintage, make & model of cars. The restorer's website still proclaims expertise in this vintage and brand car, but he's no longer in business.
Can fraud result from the ad's misrepresentation of fact? … "Only minor surface rust repair needed in a few spots (above left rear taillight, below windshield frame, etc.). No structural rust or other body damage. New battery tray - the only body part that warranted replacement. No damage to longitudinal, underneath." The floor, including underneath, battery tray and "longitudinals" are all widely known rust prone areas of this model car. Furthermore, two partial rust repair patches adjacent to other rust compromised floor sections have been discovered.
Coincidentally, the car's exterior is beautiful, but hidden parts not usually accessed in a pre purchase inspection are ugly. For example the firewall between engine and cockpit is finished beautifully where visible, but shows rust on the hidden side. The firewall has two rust perforations covered only by beautifully a painted surface.
What would be expected of a reasonable person? … accept only the word & reputation of the restorer? … either check the work personally or take other measures such as requiring photos at important stages of the work?
Abundant documentation including pictures is available.
If you care to see the gory details, here's a link:
Thanks for any insight. The seller's ("Mountainroads's") continued concerted efforts to turn himself, or the car, into the victim, is getting old and taking its toll on my psyche.
Regards,
Bob (Rufus)
Wondering if any of this constitutes fraud in a private party used car sale ad? I'm in NC and recently discovered the antique car I bought has unexpected rust issues. It was advertised online from WA State, and I bought it after having a professional inspection.
Was the seller's ad fraudulent in stating he "started a no-expense spared restoration in 2014", while writing his 2020 advertisement? He made no statement of when the restoration was completed. But sometime before final painting circa 2016 he decided to skip over exploration for, and repair of any rust found. This was admittedly due to cost, and he deflects blame to the flawed "suggestion" by the restorer that rust was unlikely. Rust is widely, if not almost universally known to be the #1 nemesis of this vintage, make & model of cars. The restorer's website still proclaims expertise in this vintage and brand car, but he's no longer in business.
Can fraud result from the ad's misrepresentation of fact? … "Only minor surface rust repair needed in a few spots (above left rear taillight, below windshield frame, etc.). No structural rust or other body damage. New battery tray - the only body part that warranted replacement. No damage to longitudinal, underneath." The floor, including underneath, battery tray and "longitudinals" are all widely known rust prone areas of this model car. Furthermore, two partial rust repair patches adjacent to other rust compromised floor sections have been discovered.
Coincidentally, the car's exterior is beautiful, but hidden parts not usually accessed in a pre purchase inspection are ugly. For example the firewall between engine and cockpit is finished beautifully where visible, but shows rust on the hidden side. The firewall has two rust perforations covered only by beautifully a painted surface.
What would be expected of a reasonable person? … accept only the word & reputation of the restorer? … either check the work personally or take other measures such as requiring photos at important stages of the work?
Abundant documentation including pictures is available.
If you care to see the gory details, here's a link:
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Thanks for any insight. The seller's ("Mountainroads's") continued concerted efforts to turn himself, or the car, into the victim, is getting old and taking its toll on my psyche.
Regards,
Bob (Rufus)
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