Is it legal?

[Aaronsmomma06]

Jurisdiction

Illinois

I'm Involved in a probate minor guardianship case in Illinois. Not one thing since this case has commenced has been done in a legal manner. I hired a lawyer and after speaking with him and him researching the case felt confident in getting it dismissed and resolved. He filed a motion stating the various reason to dismiss and illegal acts of the courts. When we went to court over such pleadings he seen that the judge had total disregard for the matter and was going to do nothing to remedy said acts. Thereafter I ask my lawyer what legal options we had after that. He replied saying there was nothing we could do. I argued the fact that I felt there was and he kindly quit responding to my emails concerning the matter. Eventually I was frustrated and desperate and sent him a email explaining that I was aware to the fact that he was legally obligated to report such acts of the courts and work to get my case dismissed and get my son returned to me. I explained that I understood the situation he was in given he worked with this judge daily and feared by doing so he would face retaliation however he needed to understand my situation. He could move and find another place to practice, I however could not get another son. If he was not going to take care of the matter I would go it alone if need be. Shortly thereafter I got a email from him stating that he was withdrawing as my attorney and stated reasons none of which were true. I emailed requesting for a explanation of said allegations never getting response to such. I agreed to discharge him under the conditions that he get me a continuance so as to hire new councel. He replied that given the circumstances the judge would grant me a continuance. Later that very day I find that after I left IL to return home in wv days prior the gal filed.five orders of protections against me. I told my lawyer all of the allegations were false and I had proof of that and was planning and prepared to fight them later that night I recieve a email from the attorney stating that the judge denied my continuance unless I would agree to and extend the five orders of protections filed against me set to be heard in three days. Same day as my trial. He said to me if I didn't agree with this then I needed to be prepared to represent myself at my trial in three days along with run the risk of the judge granting the oops and if so it could be up to a year before dropped meaning no contact with my son. Can the judge legally do this ? And what legal term would be used to describe what she did ?

 

[army judge]

Can the judge legally do this ?

Yes.

And what legal term would be used to describe what she did ?

A verdict/decision from the bench was rendered, and the applicable order was published.

Plus, FIVE orders of protection were imposed upon you.


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With millions of parents in IL, what caused child services to enter your life?

What were the circumstances in which you were allegedly involved to cause the state to seize your child?

Who were you alleged to have harmed necessitating five orders of protection to be issued against you?

When you left IL to travel to WV, was that for a court case in WV?

 

[Elainevanpelt75]

Like I said nothing has been done legal ! The thing is child services or the state was never involved. I phoned them myself looking for some sort of answers and they have no clue who my son and I are. Second from the start including in the petition, there never was any allegations or reasons for such actions . Only at trial when I confronted the judge with the contradicting rulings she made the first day was I told this was never about abuse/neglect. As for the restraining orders, well the defendant had made several attempts in obtaining a o.o p against me from the start but was unsuccessful as I traveled from Wv to il each time to fight them. Close to trial the guardian ad litem went on behalf of the defendant and got the o.o.p for her and her husband, two children as well as my son. All lies but the judge of course being corrupt didn't want to hear any of it. Now they are good for two years. lastly I live in Wv. and was in court , once again, in IL. They had no type of jurisdiction whatsoever but when the judge is dirty it doesn't matter what arguments you make. She went as far as to lie to me about the laws at trial. Unbelievable!!!

 

[army judge]

Sorry, you chose to give the court jurisdiction.
You traveled to the other state to submit to its jurisdiction.
I'm just a nobody.
I'm not the judge in your case.
Why waste your precious time arguing your defense and clarifying your reasoning process to a nothing bum like me?

Your talents are best used against a judge you believe to be corrupt.
Your legal skills might best be spent trying to undo the OOP.
Frankly, I've never understood why people are so eager to argue against an OOP brought by some garden scum they'd rather not be around, either.

If someone put an OOP against me, I'd laugh and stay far away from such a person.

Anyway, good luck in whatever it is you're trying to.
I love for people to be happy and succeed.
Success has no limits, and the more successful people there are, the fewer troublesome, quarrelsome people there will be on this planet.

 

[cbg]

Okay, let's go at it this way. Specifically, what was done that was illegal, and what law makes it illegal?

 

[Elainevanpelt75]

Sorry, you chose to give the court jurisdiction.
You traveled to the other state to submit to its jurisdiction.
I'm just a nobody.
I'm not the judge in your case.
Why waste your precious time arguing your defense and clarifying your reasoning process to a nothing bum like me?

Your talents are best used against a judge you believe to be corrupt.
Your legal skills might best be spent trying to undo the OOP.
Frankly, I've never understood why people are so eager to argue against an OOP brought by some garden scum they'd rather not be around, either.

If someone put an OOP against me, I'd laugh and stay far away from such a person.

Anyway, good luck in whatever it is you're trying to.
I love for people to be happy and succeed.
Success has no limits, and the more successful people there are, the fewer troublesome, quarrelsome people there will be on this planet.

 

[Elainevanpelt75]

No actually I didn't give jurisdiction to them. I actually traveled to that state to pick up my son. When I got there was denied access to him and went to get a oop on his behalf and was told I needed to briefly see the judge in order to obtain the oop. When I got In front of the dishonorable judge she proceeded like a oop then just make a out of the blue ruling on the guardianship matter...it was all set up. The plaintiff, my own daughter, works for a local lawyer who knows the judge !!!

 

[Elainevanpelt75]

Well the officer that I went to asking for a friendly escort lied to me about the plaintiff already having something through the courts that prevented me from going to her home and from getting my son. Telling me that if I attempted to do so I would be arrested. Prior to this he ask me if this friendly escort attempt failed what it was I planned to do next. I told him of my intentions to come file for. Oop on behalf of my son. After lying to me about the plaintiff having something through the courts he tells me that my earlier mentioned plan to get the oop might be the only option I have available. I told.him I would come down the next day and file. He gives me a little piece of paper and Instructed me to come in at eight am to file for the oop. Saying it would be the best time to do so and not end up waiting all day. Now the flip side of this is he called the plaintiff and told her that if I came to her home attempting to get my son to call his cell phone and he would come out personally and deal with me. He then informed her that i would be coming in first thing 8 a.m to file for a oop against her. He tells her that she will need to come in shortly after I had and also file for a oop against me. He then tells her to also file for a guardianship of a minor. Telling he that they will take care of it from there. Told her to bring my son because he would need to be there . Then takes the necessary information for the plaintiff and her husband as to do the required background checks and have them available. When I went in the next morning to file the oop I was told I would need to see a judge briefly to get the oop. Then was informed that the judge was tied up with a messy emergency situation and I would need to wait. I waited from open to close that day and was took to a empty courtroom where shortly after the Clerks and their Supervisor, all of whom I had dealt with that day enter the courtroom and go directly to the judges chambers. Awaiting them as of course the judge as well as the court appointed guardian ad litem and the baliff. The had their meeting and emerged approximately 15 mins later to be seated as the only witnesses to this sham oop hearing. The baliff goes out and returned with the plaintiff. The judge said that we both had filed oops against one another.( Neither was served with such, given. Copies of the ones they filed and now they do not exist ...only I do have screenshots of the one I filed) she briefly spoke then states that she and the gal had the opportunity to speak with the minor earlier in chambers and in doing so they both felt and agreed that he was in no danger of being abused or likewise by either party and dismissed the oops. Then ruled that she was granting guardianship to the plaintiff. Never once was I told the reasons or allegations up till trial when I confronted the judge with several matters as well as making contradicting rulings that day ... dismissing the oop for no danger of abuse then taking my son for what the plaintiff hinted was abuse/neglect. She grew angry saying we didn't have a hearing for oops that day. I provided proof then she says she didnt take my son for abuse /neglect..there is so much more that was done its unreal....

 

[army judge]

Your daughter set you up.

That's very sad.

I'm not surprised, because our relatives and so called friends tend to do us greater harm than strangers.

At any rate, you live hundreds of miles away from the person who bamboozled and ambushed you.

If I were you I'd simply pretend that the backstabbing, ambusher doesn't exist.

I have three such people on my DTM (dead to me) LIST.

If one of those three names ever comes up in any discussion, I simply evacuate the area IMMEDIATELY.

I have no interest in ever seeing any of those trio of thugs.

I created the DTM LIST 20 years ago.

One dies two years after that, and I was able to replace that one a year after the death of the first one.

I also put myself under my OOP for MY PROTECTION and sanity by avoiding the three thugs occupying my DTM LIST.

My life is so much easier when I ensure I am in total control of ME.

Anyway, I do wish you well.

 

[Elainevanpelt75]

Thank you.. I am still fighting for my son and will continue to . However I think I finally found a way to bring him home as well as bring charges on all . I'll find out next week and will let you know. As for my daughter, well I had to let that girl go and grieve that loss...the narcissistic psychopath that is left , I will never think twice of her! She has caused me, as well as my son, enough trouble, heartache and pain..she best enjoy it now for she will never be given that opportunity again. Family is usually the ones who turn out to hurt you most and end up being your biggest disappointment. My son comes first and foremost, getting him away from that bunch of low life is my main priority before anymore damage is done.. I made him a promise the last time I saw him that I would never stop fighting for him, I would bring him home and everyone who was involved in this case of corruption and conspiracy would be exposed and dealt with to the furthest point I can push it. They would pay for their wrongdoings and hopefully I would find someway to ultimately prevent them from doing this to another soul. I love my son and will fight to save him and expose these crooks and true criminals until I succeed or go to my grave. Something has to be done about the way things are going in our courts and the amount of corrupt individuals within them. All working together to cover one another for their latest illegal acts and protect them. When in reality they are supposed to be there to protect us ! What a joke !!!!

 

[army judge]

Thank you.. I am still fighting for my son and will continue to . However I think I finally found a way to bring him home as well as bring charges on all . I'll find out next week and will let you know. As for my daughter, well I had to let that girl go and grieve that loss...the narcissistic psychopath that is left , I will never think twice of her! She has caused me, as well as my son, enough trouble, heartache and pain..she best enjoy it now for she will never be given that opportunity again. Family is usually the ones who turn out to hurt you most and end up being your biggest disappointment. My son comes first and foremost, getting him away from that bunch of low life is my main priority before anymore damage is done.. I made him a promise the last time I saw him that I would never stop fighting for him, I would bring him home and everyone who was involved in this case of corruption and conspiracy would be exposed and dealt with to the furthest point I can push it. They would pay for their wrongdoings and hopefully I would find someway to ultimately prevent them from doing this to another soul. I love my son and will fight to save him and expose these crooks and true criminals until I succeed or go to my grave. Something has to be done about the way things are going in our courts and the amount of corrupt individuals within them. All working together to cover one another for their latest illegal acts and protect them. When in reality they are supposed to be there to protect us ! What a joke !!!!

Truth is, it's our entire country.

The people we elect to serve our nation, simply serve us up like roasted rats.

Our entire country is corrupt, and they're pillaging, looting, abusing, and destroying us.

What civilized society allows 12-13 year olds to marry?

What civilized society fails to protect children, barely punishing the perverts who molest them?

Our educational system sucks, not because we have bad teachers, again it's bad leadership.

I'm afraid this country will be a third world cesspool in 20-30 years unless the people wise up.

If the country's corrupt, why wouldn't the courts be the same?

It's no accident that our prisons no longer rehabilitate people, they make people worse, who only become better criminals.