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Can I move to Discovery in appeal for Political USA Water Supply case Judge tossed b4 summons issued

Discussion in 'Civil Court, Procedure & Litigation' started by Florida Blue Gold, Jul 7, 2019.

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  1. Florida Blue Gold

    Florida Blue Gold Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Submitted at Racketeering case on Water Supply in Washington Federal Court on agencies hiding it 40yrs. A secret underground basin with unique alkaline spring water hidden by Florida leaders and EPA. See Gilberti vs Federal Reserve et. al., Case 19-cv-738 Also another in Tampa Middle District Gilberti vs Ron Desantis et al 19-cv-00282.

    The Washington case due to politics gets dismissed the day they sign the summons as 'Patently Insubstantial by Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson. Now I file appeal while Tampa Stays the litigation due to cost potential on Discovery for similar cases.

    My question is nobody answered the complaint in Washington after finally being served, I filed appeal, so NO DISCOVERY yet. Can I begin asking for discovery during the brief due in 60days? I asked for Jury, how can a Judge dismiss when everyone can see the water flowing from the Artesian well 1500' deep that ties to an underground river in the rocks. It has permits for to tie into a four county infrastructure. So its very real and very political as tap water based on cancer rates. Water bill lower with cancer and we found out these secret underground rivers are in every town across America and World. Hidden by EPA, NASA and more to sell medicine and create a World Health crisis.

    Can I file summons to call in agency heads I served?
     
  2. Tax Counsel

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    The court dismissed your complaint under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure (FRCP) 12(b)(1), which means it was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction. The court could have also dismissed the complaint under FRCP 12(b)(6) too for failure to state a claim. Either way, once the case was dismissed the trial court's jurisdiction is over and no discovery can take place. You have to wait for the Court of Appeals (COA) to decide your appeal. If the court were to overturn the dismissal and reinstate the case then you may proceed to discovery. However, after looking it, it's pretty much guaranteed that the COA will uphold the trial court decision.

    Because you have to set out in your complaint facts that support a valid legal claim against the defendants and when you sue in federal court you have to show that the court has jurisdiction to hear that claim. Your complaint failed to meet those requirements so the judge dismissed it. Under the law if the judge determines that the court lacks subject matter jurisdiction, as it did here, the judge MUST dismiss the case.

    No. The case is dismissed. Unless the COA overturns the dismissal you cannot do discovery now. And you don't summons/subpoena parties you named in the lawsuit. You need to read the FRCP discovery rules carefully and follow them.
     
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    Dude, sentences are your friend. It's hard to understand what you're saying with all the sentence fragments.

    Who did you sue? For what? Chances are if you filed a federal suit the way you type here, it would be tossed out of hand. There's no requirement the court process things that are patently spurious.
     
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    He sued a whole lot of current and former government officials, including former President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and various government agencies on a RICO claim alleging a conspiracy to hide a vast network of underground rivers that he claims exists all over the U.S. for the purpose of jacking up water prices, among other things.
     
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    Oh, is he Gilberti. I thought that was just some random case site he through in. The complaint is amusing. The complaint is too large to post here, but the judge's memorandum is pretty concise. I've attached it here for the PACER challenged.

    Nice he cc'd President Trump and AG Barr on the notice to appeal. I'm sure they're dying to read it.

    Amusingly in the Florida filed case, he insults the judge in his response to the motions to dismiss. Yeah, that will work.
     

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  6. Florida Blue Gold

    Florida Blue Gold Law Topic Starter New Member

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    This is what I wanted to hear for the Stay in Tampa that wanted to keep discovery low. We wanted to summons all agencies for the real lawsuit. The Water is FREE. Water bills go down.

    This mixture changes medicine and the US Military is involved. We don't care about this lawsuit. This was a preable to show the lawyers and attorney politicians are tied to timed Terrorism surrounding this resource hidden since 1969. Its cheaper to filter spring water that treat polluted rivers.

    You attorney have heads up your asses! We are funded for $35billion and are clearing out the West Coast. One j12 mile causes 6 Counties that are interconnected from Hurricane cross overs west of I-75 from Sarasota to Naples have the healthiest water in the World.

    The dismissal was without prejudice. We have exposure now, as these stupid leaders won't answer a letter or email. Now we summons for class action and more litigation proving they got the readings and timed terrorism that was used to subdue me. The used the Smith-Mundt act to fake School shooting and more.

    This technical questions was to see how stupid you lawyers really are. Making judgments on law crap and missing that cancer rate issues (get cancer in the showers), economic growth and new science! This is the number one natural resource on Earth. Thats why Greenberg Traurig is all over me. Thats why World investors are dealing with finding theres in their country now. But I got the infrastructure next door and the location with sunny Florida

    It was saved for Jeb Bush and Blue Gold bush family. Thanks though. A f grammar
     
  7. Florida Blue Gold

    Florida Blue Gold Law Topic Starter New Member

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    Racketeering. Hiding Higher Level of Service Raw Resources. They are charging higher water bills, and causing cancer rates, water restrictions, built unnecessary reservoirs with Fed Funds, selling medicine with bad treated water. Hiding US Resources from THE PEOPLE. This is THE PEOPLES water to the tap
     
  8. Florida Blue Gold

    Florida Blue Gold Law Topic Starter New Member

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    It takes five minutes to verify the quality that shows highest magnesium and calcium in alkaline spring water on Earth. It takes 2 hours for a pump report showing tied to an Ocean. Takes 3hrs during those hours to watch the down the hole video showing natural fracks from KT Event means it flowing down there for 65mil years and is NOT running out! So we have massive quality never seen on Earth, next to a 5 County Peace River infrastructure, causing lower water bills, lower cancer and a massive housing boom and equity increase the day it hit TV which is real soon.

    Then everyone can see all these leaders hid it and the Judge is another Harvard communist. All I asked for was to verify the source!
     
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    I refuse to read any more of this unless you speak English.
     
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    ...and here you are.
     
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    Yep, can buy some competent attorneys with that.

    The complaint isn't much more coherent than the posts here. This "professional" engineer needs to learn how to write in sentences. Amusingly his most recent filing in a motion to lift a stay on the proceedings regurgitates the same ungrammatical nonsense and new claims that the Florida AG and President Obama kidnapped him and the like without actually addressing anything with regard to the stay order.

    The last line is the only one that actually appears to address the order and it makes little sense either (capitalization, punctuation, and the spelling errors verbatim from the last page of the motion):

    Because the Defendants avoided spending any monies on filing notice on the Washington DC Case or in the appeal, and refuse to take responsibility per their Mission Statement like Swfwmd 'Water Matters" and intern over the past 7yrs has attacked the Engineer, millions of People, has not validated the endless unique Alkaline spring water drinking resource with any qualified lab or professional engineer which cost less than $500 and one hour analysis, this court should lift the stay.\
    The court stayed this proceeding because it's a duplicate of the one filed in the DC court which because of the notice to appeal is still active. The Florida court stays this one pending the outcome of the other Essentially, one of two things happens. The appeals court finds something wrong with the dismissal (unlikely), in which case the DC case gets remanded and goes forth. Either way, the defendants will use the res judica on the other case to argue that their Florida case.

    Since Gilberti doesn't address this issue, the rest is spurious and I can assure him that the court will dismiss the motion out of hand.
     
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  12. Florida Blue Gold

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    yeah I,m here and everywhere else too. Like permits in 15 Counties, 60 Cities with 300mile transmission, deeds, documents and the biggest story in US History. Unless you can pop a Hole and get these water readings never seen on Earth, tied to an underground river, tied to a much deeper Ocean hid 50yrs, maybe show me something YOU BRING TO THE TABLE.

    I like to see every angle with these lawyers destroying America! Only one person here answered appropriately and many consumers count on Forums! Grow Up! Its a World resource hidden by Lawyers and Judges LOST IN SPACE!

    The funding comes with a State Revolving Fund at FDEP that reimburse our phasing program applied for with our documents and source at FDEP Marjory Stoneman Douglas building, when suddenly 17days later the Parkland Majory Stoneman Douglas building shooting happens with a fake email by a LAWYER in Tampa on an AR-15 death threat (Chris Shaw an ex-public defender and the cops, state attorney and District 13 Enterprise) and another shooting in Broward put on my cousin with a AR-15. But you lawyers found a way to achieve WHAT? We still have the deeds, documents and a building story. '

    Private firms are fronting based on cost and my fees, and we hold bottling and medical rights, while taking down lands it serves. Its much more than $35billion and YES I am here to post so you can pass it on.....

    What did any Lawyer ever bring to the US Table besides greed, talk and corruption? Unless you got a US Resource with knowledge how to find the rest, WHICH SELLS ITSELF, hence the attack on America from the largest and most power law-firms on Earth, just go post some more......you can bill your chump change and wonder what we have all your life.

    And being Humble to post on line for the hungry People is one of the greatest parts of this project. You Lawyers collectively in America are all WALKING IN SHAME on this one.
     
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    I suggest that you use some of that funding to hire professionals for assistance.
     
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    Except he seems to have some pretty hefty judgments against him that probably bars him from using any assets he claims to have. I'm burning through my pacer budget watching his shenanigans. In addition, he's inserted himself (unsuccessfully because it appears he cited the case wrong) in some other lawsuits that are entirely related (three jane does suing the feds over the fact they had to work without pay during the government shutdown).
     
  15. Florida Blue Gold

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    What did you bring to the Table. This site took 1 hour of my time...big deal.......key is not litigation its standing them up in Racketeering and summons them the water readings. location and DOJ hiding it with fake terrorism games and chickcrap lawyers and judges! They settle and we get connection and its $1mil/day at $1 per thousand gallons.... you know anything......thats why your a lawyer.

    I don't care about any Judges feelings or cases here! Nobody is moving this resource and I gave Congress and THE PEOPLE leverage to end the US Debt! What did you bring. And we hired over 50 lawyers, spent hundreds of thousands, and they all ran off scared!!! Go away....your walk in a room like a child as if you understand an 8yr water war hidden for Bush Family with Tampa Central command and Rothschild World Bank...
     

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