Other Debt criminal restitution lien

[bensep]

I bought a used car and it has a restitution lien on it. The way it was originally explained to me i thought it was from unpaid criminal debts of my own, but i had paid those all of years ago. anyway i just found out that it is from a previous owners crimes. Is there a way to get the title cleaned? i want to sell it because i got a better job and need a more reliable car, it is a 95 camry. Any help pis greatly appreciated thank you!

 

[army judge]

I bought a used car and it has a restitution lien on it. The way it was originally explained to me i thought it was from unpaid criminal debts of my own, but i had paid those all of years ago. anyway i just found out that it is from a previous owners crimes. Is there a way to get the title cleaned? i want to sell it because i got a better job and need a more reliable car, it is a 95 camry. Any help pis greatly appreciated thank you!

Let's cue those NOT in the know about RESTITUTION LIENS:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/00806.htm

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/adultprobation/victimservices/restitutionliens.asp

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/Restitution.pdf

This might be of value to you, OP:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/2009/03/15/20090315biz-debruhl0316.html

Why didn't they know there was a lien? Turns out that restitution liens are not listed on the title. The only way to know is to call the motor-vehicle department before you buy and ask if there's a problem with the title. Kathi also made a mistake by not noticing the name on the title was different from the seller.

Kathi appealed to the court system but has been told tough luck. Until the lien is paid, the car is in limbo. That means she owns a car that she can't drive and she can't sell.

It's not right that the original owner skipped on his debt, but keeping Kathi in purgatory isn't right either.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...15/20090315biz-debruhl0316.html#ixzz2rNa8KrTO


You have two possibilities:

Find a sucker that doesn't know what a RESTITUTION LIEN is, and sell it for $200 less than what you owe, to get it off your hands.
But, that might be problematic for you. I subscribe to the theory "two wrongs don't make a right".

Or, pay off the LIEN, and see if you can get a FISH to pay more enough to get ALL of th money you you have sunk into this CLUNKER.
Yeah, that might be dreaming, huh?
I guess you're stuck like poor Kathi, OP.

Next time, never buy a car from a private seller or a slick, shyster USED CAR LOT.
Why? Stuff like this (and worse) is common.

You'll pay more, when buying a USED CAR from a NEW CAR dealer, but there are certain INHERENT protections in those deals.

Remember this: THERE AIN'T NO DEALS, EVER, NO WAY, NO HOW! There are just GENTLER, KINDER FLEECINGS that leave you with a little more WOOL!

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[army judge]

Upon further researching this issue, OP, I discovered the following:


You may be able to request a hearing from the Arizona Department of Transportation if you purchased a vehicle and later found out about a lien on it.
The hearing officer will determine if you qualify to title the vehicle in your name without paying the previous owner's lien. Below is how to request the hearing pursuant to Arizona Administrative Code (AAC) R17-1-502.

R17-1-502. Request for Hearing

Form for requesting a hearing http://www.azdot.gov/docs/default-source/mvd-forms-pubs/40-5009.pdf?sfvrsn=4

A. A petitioner or petitioner's attorney shall file a request for a hearing:

1. By mail or hand delivery to the Executive Hearing Office's street address:

Executive Hearing Office, Arizona Department of Transportation, Motor Vehicle Division, 3737 N. 7th St., Suite 160, Phoenix, AZ 85014-5017;

2. By fax to (602) 241-1624; or

3. By e-mail to the Executive Hearing Office's electronic mail address: hearingoffice@azdot.gov; and

4. Timeliness of filing is determined as of the date the Executive Hearing Office receives a request for hearing.

B. A request for hearing shall be submitted to the Executive Hearing Office within 15 days of the date of an agency action notice.

C. A request for a hearing shall include the petitioner's name, mailing address, and telephone number.



The AZ Secretary of State's website:

http://www.azsos.gov/public_services/Title_17/17-01.htm#ARTICLE_5


Good luck, you have NOTHING more to lose, and maybe MUCH to gain!

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