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Not looking for a pat on the head, just want to focus on the facts and the text. Hands free doesn't require anything being strapped to your head. The reason I was using turn by turn navigation was so that I wouldn't have to take my hands or eyes off the road to get directions. Yes a lot of...

I agree, it does not matter what I think the law says, it matters what it actually says, and I am responsible if I break it. I don't think my confusion about the law is an excuse or a legal defense, my point was more "hey take it easy on me on this forum", I probably should have made that more...

I appreciate your insight, but I'm not sure you understand what I am asking. Yes clearly the ordinance says that being stopped at a red light is considered driving-- Here's a kicker though: a lot of people don't read the exact text for every city ordinance. Most people understand the gist of the...

More information: I will not be able to take a defensive driving class to lower the fine because I already took the class for a speeding ticket I received less than 12 months ago