Copyrighting a Legal Case File with Reasons

dee dee said:

In all reality, it appears that you are not studied enough in the field of mental health to make any qualified "diagnosis" which is what you are doing ...

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You have reached the exact opposite conclusion of what I intended, and I only have myself to blame for the misunderstanding. I believe every word you are saying. You seem entirely sane to me...however...your claims are extreme enough that anybody that you attempt to take legal action against will, undoubtedly, attempt to attack your mental competence. If you go in to this armed with the proof that you are, in fact, entirely sane and perfectly competent, then your claims will be better received by the trier(s) of fact (i.e. judges and/or juries).

dee dee said:

My hunch is you are male, angry at something during your childhood, or have early childhood training from your father or community signaling to you that is ok to abuse or hinder women's rights and justice.

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I have made the acquaintance of Ms. Zelda Zigner for several years.

She is a very bright, articulate, clever, and educated person of the female gender.

She has fought tirelessly all of her adult life to assist those who suffer with mental issues.

Her charitable foundation is renowned all over the planet for it's outstanding work helping those who suffer mental abuse to regain their lives.

She has never been abusive towards any gender.

army judge said:

I have made the acquaintance of Ms. Zelda Zigner for several years.

She is a very bright, articulate, clever, and educated person of the female gender.

She has fought tirelessly all of her adult life to assist those who suffer with mental issues.

Her charitable foundation is renowned all over the planet for it's outstanding work helping those who suffer mental abuse to regain their lives.

She has never been abusive towards any gender.

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That's very nice, it's good to know that at least one lawyer out of the entire country is fighting for those with "mental issues" but I suppose fighting for a veteran with PTSD is also considered "mental issues" or fighting for the rights of a rape and torture victim with "depression" and the loss of hope another "mental issue"; or fighting for someone stuffed so filled with drugs & electric shock treatment by a very sick society is another issue; or fighting for a woman who was forced to be a sex slave sold by pimps with the mental issue of "PTSD" or anguish is still another mental health issue? Yet economic abuses can create distress and therefore, can be titled under "mental health" issues too so if a family is deprived their rightful pay by a bad boss, who is unscrupulous, and the family loses their home, can't pay the electrical bill, and suffers "depression" still another "mental health" issue, it could be titled under a mental health case? Sounds sort of silly in a way. We obviously already know that those who are wronged, deprived fairness, justice, and equality are suffering somehow. The issue with "mental health" issues is they probably cannot be considered taboo by society any longer or put in box to be locked up without a voice, hopefully, in today's world as the victims of psychological categories (abuse) were once were. The issue with "mental health" issues though and I feel a huge area to troubleshoot legally (not discussing anything personally) is the victims of psychiatry already destroyed by ECT (electric shock treatment) to the brain, massive experimental dosing of various barbiturates, psych meds, and other non-essential medicines that interfere with normal human health, ostracization by society who don't understand anything concerning "psychiatry" nor "psychology", or those who are drugged up by drugs, such as illegal drugs or mind altering types of drugs (not certain which ones are current) that people take on the streets.

The perception today is that someone who doesn't have the money to pay large legal fees is "mentally unhealthy" because of the capitalist privileged classifications of societies divided into segments today. So you get very wealthy people with known diagnosed "mental health" issues who make a lot of monies but society accepts and loves them because they are extremely wealthy. For example, Kanye West, the world famous rapper takes psych med(s) and has a mental health diagnosis, met with the President, and can file a legal claim anytime he chooses to protect his rights. No judge, lawyer, or legal platform representative can use a psychiatry as a weapon, cause the reality they see and he lives is wealth; everyone overlooks his "mental health" issue including politicians who wouldn't normally meet anyone with a mental health diagnoses.

The only real issue I do have, besides losing my mom recently and grieving some, and my sister, is not being fully paid for much services, going bankrupt because of it, humiliation for not having the funds to pursue various legal cases I needed to, having quite a few of these, not being able to hire security when needed, pay back debts, take care of others the way I have a right to; and basically it revolves around money and security. If that's a mental health issue, then you better diagnose 3/4s of America with the whatever it is called.

Thank you. I hope more lawyers like the one you mentioned come to the battlefield though in the area of mental health. This country needs so many better lawyers in so many areas honestly!

dee dee said:

That's very nice, it's good to know that at least one lawyer out of the entire country is fighting for those with "mental issues" but I suppose fighting for a veteran with PTSD is also considered "mental issues" or fighting for the rights of a rape and torture victim with "depression" and the loss of hope another "mental issue"; or fighting for someone stuffed so filled with drugs & electric shock treatment by a very sick society is another issue; or fighting for a woman who was forced to be a sex slave sold by pimps with the mental issue of "PTSD" or anguish is still another mental health issue? Yet economic abuses can create distress and therefore, can be titled under "mental health" issues too so if a family is deprived their rightful pay by a bad boss, who is unscrupulous, and the family loses their home, can't pay the electrical bill, and suffers "depression" still another "mental health" issue, it could be titled under a mental health case? Sounds sort of silly in a way. We obviously already know that those who are wronged, deprived fairness, justice, and equality are suffering somehow. The issue with "mental health" issues is they probably cannot be considered taboo by society any longer or put in box to be locked up without a voice, hopefully, in today's world as the victims of psychological categories (abuse) were once were. The issue with "mental health" issues though and I feel a huge area to troubleshoot legally (not discussing anything personally) is the victims of psychiatry already destroyed by ECT (electric shock treatment) to the brain, massive experimental dosing of various barbiturates, psych meds, and other non-essential medicines that interfere with normal human health, ostracization by society who don't understand anything concerning "psychiatry" nor "psychology", or those who are drugged up by drugs, such as illegal drugs or mind altering types of drugs (not certain which ones are current) that people take on the streets.

The perception today is that someone who doesn't have the money to pay large legal fees is "mentally unhealthy" because of the capitalist privileged classifications of societies divided into segments today. So you get very wealthy people with known diagnosed "mental health" issues who make a lot of monies but society accepts and loves them because they are extremely wealthy. For example, Kanye West, the world famous rapper takes psych med(s) and has a mental health diagnosis, met with the President, and can file a legal claim anytime he chooses to protect his rights. No judge, lawyer, or legal platform representative can use a psychiatry as a weapon, cause the reality they see and he lives is wealth; everyone overlooks his "mental health" issue including politicians who wouldn't normally meet anyone with a mental health diagnoses.

The only real issue I do have, besides losing my mom recently and grieving some, and my sister, is not being fully paid for much services, going bankrupt because of it, humiliation for not having the funds to pursue various legal cases I needed to, having quite a few of these, not being able to hire security when needed, pay back debts, take care of others the way I have a right to; and basically it revolves around money and security. If that's a mental health issue, then you better diagnose 3/4s of America with the whatever it is called.

Thank you. I hope more lawyers like the one you mentioned come to the battlefield though in the area of mental health. This country needs so many better lawyers in so many areas honestly!

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You are very defensive over this matter. The simple fact is that you will need to prove your claim and overcome the tactics of the other side when they try to disprove and discredit you. If you are unwilling to do that, then you may as well give up now.

Best of luck to you in your quest for justice and vengeance.

Might be time for the moderators to close this rather pointless thread.

Zigner said:

You are very defensive over this matter. The simple fact is that you will need to prove your claim and overcome the tactics of the other side when they try to disprove and discredit you. If you are unwilling to do that, then you may as well give up now.

Best of luck to you in your quest for justice and vengeance.

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I understand "devil's advocate" and appreciate this actually. I wasn't that defensive at all honestly. It sounded that way to you but that was your perception. I'm used to various tactics though and the very one you used. It's an out of style and out of date tactic used to defy justice and do wrong actually and had been used for many centuries within our legal system and generally, in all our career systems. All one in power had to claim is "that person is crazy" and their life could be ruined or they could get fired, or they could be left out of classroom parties, and so forth. If you actually believe though that using this tactic is going to work in America with serious legal cases, you are wrong. It once was used and psychiatry was also used to create treason, crimes against American citizens, to destroy human life and careers. They won't be able to use it my case, cause I have too many verifiable documents and I do hope our system progresses enough where it doesn't deprive justice from those who honestly deserve it, whether they are actually diagnosed with the hundreds of mental health diagnoses that exists today or not. You don't tell a person with no legs they can't have justice just cause they lost their legs; the same needs to be applied generally across the board in the legal sphere, regarding "mental health" issues. You don't tell someone who has diabetes they cannot win a lawsuit or be heard in a court of law just because they need an insulin shot, or cannot eat all that sugar; the same should be applied to anyone with "mental health" abuses and issues.

The issue with only some with mental health issues, is communications. I studied psychology in my early college years for my first college degree and have visited many mental health facilities as a visitor meeting with many. They are mostly deprived medical care, medical check ups, their legal rights, and all so some business buffoon can earn profits and also because society still lives in the dark ages somewhat concerning mental health having never studied the various areas concerned nor ever having had to experience through relations. Too much drinking alcohol is also considered a sickness these days, a mental health issue. I would hunch and only hunch that half of America is busy drinking on a regular basis, some every day. Some mental health folks were so violated, terrified throughout their entire lives that their communications may not be very clear. They may use metaphors cause if they say the truth, they learned they could be hit, punched, kicked, locked up, deprived food, and punished. No one has ever listened to some of them, so they wouldn't be used to "explaining" in full their situation, the details, and what they are enduring cause they've been cut off their whole lives, and people didn't take them seriously cause they were labeled with a "mental health" issue. This is especially so for those that have been locked up in mental health facilities, special open care centers, and experimented on. They were taught there was nothing wrong with them being abused so for them to explain that they were, may also be impossible or not on the table. It's a fairly big area of concern.

Most girls in the 20th and even 21st century are not taught that they can say "no" and "no" means "no". They actually believe that it is ok for someone to rape them and force them against their will so never report their rapes. Only when educated with knowledge do some realize later they were wronged. Soldiers in Vietnam were fed Meth, which was manufactured by the Central Intelligence Agency during those years and against their will, without their knowledge most of the time. They were fed LSD, a mind altering chemical as well without their knowing. Only later, did some find out that their "mental health" and self determinism was being tampered with.

When you mentioned "mental health" to me and I've heard it before by no gooders, the amount of studies I have in the area, the research I've done above and outside college would equal two PhDs. Unfortunately, during my early college years we didn't have authority figures at school that told us that we could borrow money to get higher education or could obtain grants to pay for a few higher college degrees. Unfortunately, I was poor and only earned a higher degree much later in life. My learning, research and experience though goes beyond what they actually teach in today's Universities, which they should. I want them to. Anger or anguish is not a "mental health" issue either, and its healthy to get a little angry if you need to, but also not legal to react on that anger within society with the idea of "vengeance" as many gang members do. People who batter women consistently, which I've seen, using out of date tactics, are just uneducated. It's frustrating to see so many non progressed uneducated people still using outdated scenarios that do not apply within our justice system or society. Simply mocking something as "mentally unfit" or with a "mental issue" violates the Americans with Disabilities Act as well.

I'm pursuing progress and justice--not vengeance, a very harsh word to choose! I'm honestly not out to harm anyone involved, any org, nor cause any sort of suffering, in fact it's probably the opposite. Doing what is right, is the best path for who I'm dealing with, considering I'm still servicing some of their needs as a humanist with a good sense of high ethics. I don't want their futures filled with terrible misdeeds and for any of those I served to have to contend with people who don't think as I do; people who would do harm, serious harm.

Believe it or not, recently I read that people who are not American in other countries actually believe and call us "Crazy America" and actually think we are "crazy" people who live in America. But what does that word mean?

zddoodah said:

Might be time for the moderators to close this rather pointless thread.

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I was thinking just that.

No disrespect to you, Dee Dee, but there's nothing more we can do for you here. Your question about your protecting your case file was answered early on in this thread and that's it.

Thread closed.